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what's happening ladies and gentlemen

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welcome to the episode tonight

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i'm very excited for this one and i've

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been mentioning it for a while i know

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we're rolling up here on halloween so

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happy halloween eve or devil's nights

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everybody has suppose it is devil's

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night isn't it yeah i guess it is

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uh so thank you for coming and hanging

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out tonight if you could please hit that

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like and subscribe button ring the bell

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that way you get notified every single

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time i go live and then really quick too

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right off the top of the pad next

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saturday at 9 00 pm i will have n k

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kanata so she will be here sharing her

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experiences as well as what she's doing

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for the community so please come back

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next saturday as i will be hanging out

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doing that and now that it's been

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formally announced everybody would like

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to know i'm very excited to announce

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that the 11th or that second weekend of

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december i'll be part of the after hours

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uh

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table there or the new show that's

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expanding for sor or spaced out radius

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with dave scott john hudson and gemma

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jade will be the other co-host with me

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i'm very excited about that we'll get a

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lot more into the experiencer side of

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things as far as bringing those that are

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in the chat on as well as some other

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really cool things we have in the works

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all right enough about that uh let's

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also mention really quick i hope we got

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in first of all who got first place

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today let's see

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i think i thought yeah it should be

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sunny with a paranormal chop shop had

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first place followed by chad smith

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welcome brother josh casey's uh taking

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the bronze home there we got champ

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campbell

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we got anonymous rex welcome to the chat

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thank you for being here tonight i think

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you're brand new so thank you very much

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for coming and hanging out we have jim

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we also have john marks thank you for

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being here tonight let's see who else i

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got adam ambrose hey what's happening

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good to see you again tonight

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why good evening brother good to see you

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excuse me which brings me to my next

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thing really quick guys we'll get it out

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of the way i promise i think it's an

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important thing to talk about a little

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bit because it helps out the show here

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helps out ben and joe as you guys know

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which is

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none of this would be happening without

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them right none of this at all so if you

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guys wouldn't mind if you get a chance

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and i have it in the show links go check

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it out

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if you go check out manscaped

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cleared for takeoff if you guys use the

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promo code ufo garage

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all caps you will get 20 off of your

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order plus free shipping on whatever you

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decide to get

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and as i always say guys it's important

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when getting down there use a

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professional tool so treat your family

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jewels like the jewels they truly are

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and will help support the show so we

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really appreciate them reaching out for

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us that way and and possibly getting

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this all set up um let's see what else

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let me get this out here here we go

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benjamin might be welcome john max oh

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that's welcome again so our guest

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tonight mr calvin parker guys very

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excited about this one uh some of you

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may or may not know the story those that

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are familiar um well this will be a

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treat for you because as we all know um

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and we're very glad that he's recovered

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a little bit of uphill battle a couple

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things weren't weren't that great so

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we're really happy to have this

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opportunity for him to still be here

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with us and hang out and and share his

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uh really his legacy if we think about

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um in 1973 he had some some pretty

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guess it was october 11th if i recall

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correctly so almost we're just over 48

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and i know everybody's doing halloween

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episodes right now i know everybody's

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doing the scary ghost stories and that's

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that's what everybody's doing right now

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some of the scariest things you can ever

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encounter deal with are these real life

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experiences and mr parker certainly had

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a real life experience

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as we will be dealing with that tonight

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thing i've been forgetting to do for a

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long time and i'd like to ask you guys

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for doing uh grand master welcome to the

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chat thank you for being here tonight

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is guys please

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share this if you can share it to

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however i don't care how you share it

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just share it it will really help us out

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share it to somebody you think might be

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interested and that will help us out

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greatly so enough of me rambling guys

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let's bring in uh mr parker here or

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what do you prefer going by by the way

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do you prefer calvin or mr parker no

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calvin i'm not having normal yet

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i might be old and broke down but i'm

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not to the mr part yet

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i love it so how are we doing tonight

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these aches and pains and all but uh i'm

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very very nice had a good day i got to

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in our neighborhood so it was a nice day

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do love some prince some good peanut

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format that's not here on the on the

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just know that everything i'm talking

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about here tonight will there'll be show

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to do that as well and really quick guys

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them in caps as always and depending on

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some people to come on and try to do

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questions get you in and out as fast as

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depending on what happens tonight

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michael huntington welcome to the chat

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as well

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water under the bridge since then but uh

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doctor visits so i finally got into uh

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bring no fishing equipment with me

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elevator and we started fishing

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so we drove and we got out at the old

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shaw peter shipyard the first thing i

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said charlie you know they got no

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maybe we don't need to fish here they

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that i've been sure all the time

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said okay so we walked and struggled and

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got down and found the old pier

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log there because the shipyard was

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abandoned and out of business

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and there was a noah

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ship out there and it was made out of

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steel and i was thinking to myself now

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i was just sitting there thinking that

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bright blue hazy light coming across the

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water from behind me

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and i told charlie i said oh you done it

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now the law's here they're gonna run us

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off and they're gonna put us in jail

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and that's when the blue hazy light went

279
00:10:06,710 --> 00:10:05,519
off and a bright beam just hit us

280
00:10:09,190 --> 00:10:06,720
and

281
00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:09,200
we it was so bright we couldn't really

282
00:10:11,190 --> 00:10:10,320
uh

283
00:10:13,829 --> 00:10:11,200
see

284
00:10:15,509 --> 00:10:13,839
what was there at the moment

285
00:10:19,750 --> 00:10:15,519
but i did notice

286
00:10:21,670 --> 00:10:19,760
just kind of focused in it was three

287
00:10:24,389 --> 00:10:21,680
looked like green bay packers they were

288
00:10:26,389 --> 00:10:24,399
so big coming in toward us there

289
00:10:28,389 --> 00:10:26,399
and i thought well hell they they mean

290
00:10:29,350 --> 00:10:28,399
business they gonna really put us in

291
00:10:31,190 --> 00:10:29,360
jail

292
00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:31,200
because at this time i still thought it

293
00:10:35,030 --> 00:10:32,640
was a law

294
00:10:36,710 --> 00:10:35,040
right well before i

295
00:10:38,310 --> 00:10:36,720
noticed that two of them and got ahold

296
00:10:39,509 --> 00:10:38,320
of charlie and one of them got a hold of

297
00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:39,519
myself

298
00:10:45,990 --> 00:10:42,720
and that's when i felt a stick in my arm

299
00:10:48,389 --> 00:10:46,000
and that was what they called the uh

300
00:10:51,269 --> 00:10:48,399
shot that they gave us was a i don't

301
00:10:53,750 --> 00:10:51,279
care shot anyway

302
00:10:55,829 --> 00:10:53,760
so they gave us a shot to kind of calm

303
00:10:58,069 --> 00:10:55,839
us down and we

304
00:10:59,750 --> 00:10:58,079
testified to that later on

305
00:11:01,190 --> 00:10:59,760
and noticed that later on through the

306
00:11:03,350 --> 00:11:01,200
blood work and everything at the

307
00:11:04,150 --> 00:11:03,360
hospital

308
00:11:06,949 --> 00:11:04,160
so

309
00:11:08,630 --> 00:11:06,959
this thing picked me up by my arm and

310
00:11:09,430 --> 00:11:08,640
carried us

311
00:11:11,829 --> 00:11:09,440
uh

312
00:11:12,949 --> 00:11:11,839
carried me now i lost sight of charlie

313
00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:12,959
now

314
00:11:18,870 --> 00:11:16,560
up to the front door of this craft

315
00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:18,880
and it was astonishing because i

316
00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:21,040
remember looking in the lights wasn't

317
00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:23,040
coming from the outside they was coming

318
00:11:26,389 --> 00:11:24,800
from the walls

319
00:11:28,389 --> 00:11:26,399
inside the craft you know just

320
00:11:30,630 --> 00:11:28,399
illuminating out of the walls

321
00:11:33,829 --> 00:11:30,640
yeah so

322
00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:33,839
we got to the door and it just you know

323
00:11:37,269 --> 00:11:35,440
i noticed that

324
00:11:38,710 --> 00:11:37,279
and the lights just kind of damned a

325
00:11:40,710 --> 00:11:38,720
little bit

326
00:11:42,389 --> 00:11:40,720
and this creature

327
00:11:45,509 --> 00:11:42,399
and i'm calling him the creature because

328
00:11:47,910 --> 00:11:45,519
i still don't know what it was

329
00:11:49,430 --> 00:11:47,920
took me in and turned left and went down

330
00:11:52,150 --> 00:11:49,440
a hallway

331
00:11:54,949 --> 00:11:52,160
and took a right turn

332
00:11:58,870 --> 00:11:54,959
and there was this office there or what

333
00:12:00,069 --> 00:11:58,880
i call an office or examination room

334
00:12:05,670 --> 00:12:00,079
and

335
00:12:07,590 --> 00:12:05,680
sitting on an angle or a glass table

336
00:12:09,670 --> 00:12:07,600
and he carried us over and laid us on

337
00:12:12,710 --> 00:12:09,680
that well he didn't need to restrain us

338
00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:12,720
down or anything or stain me down

339
00:12:16,629 --> 00:12:14,560
because you know i don't have that go to

340
00:12:20,310 --> 00:12:16,639
hell shot

341
00:12:26,069 --> 00:12:23,350
and i could row my head and move my eyes

342
00:12:28,870 --> 00:12:26,079
but i couldn't move my body

343
00:12:29,990 --> 00:12:28,880
well this big ugly one what i'm gonna

344
00:12:31,430 --> 00:12:30,000
call it

345
00:12:33,350 --> 00:12:31,440
just kind of

346
00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:33,360
laid me there and he backed up out of

347
00:12:36,550 --> 00:12:34,320
the way

348
00:12:39,269 --> 00:12:36,560
and out of the salem there was something

349
00:12:41,430 --> 00:12:39,279
about the size of a deck of card

350
00:12:44,629 --> 00:12:41,440
and it was blue on the bottom and it

351
00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:44,639
came down just in front of my

352
00:12:48,629 --> 00:12:47,040
in front of my face stopped about a foot

353
00:12:51,670 --> 00:12:48,639
from my head

354
00:12:53,829 --> 00:12:51,680
it started rotating around my head if it

355
00:12:56,470 --> 00:12:53,839
goes through and you could hear it sound

356
00:12:58,949 --> 00:12:56,480
just like one of these mris

357
00:13:00,230 --> 00:12:58,959
that they have in the hospital it would

358
00:13:02,310 --> 00:13:00,240
click

359
00:13:06,550 --> 00:13:02,320
four times

360
00:13:08,550 --> 00:13:06,560
then it shot shot back up in the wall

361
00:13:10,550 --> 00:13:08,560
so i was laying there when this thing

362
00:13:13,190 --> 00:13:10,560
shot back up in the wall

363
00:13:15,430 --> 00:13:13,200
and i kind of felt the presence still

364
00:13:17,110 --> 00:13:15,440
not really at myself

365
00:13:18,550 --> 00:13:17,120
we kind of felt the presence of

366
00:13:20,710 --> 00:13:18,560
something else

367
00:13:23,829 --> 00:13:20,720
so i rode my head over

368
00:13:26,949 --> 00:13:23,839
and uh looked toward the other direction

369
00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:30,310
doorway and this

370
00:13:35,670 --> 00:13:32,720
looked like a just a regular average old

371
00:13:36,710 --> 00:13:35,680
redneck girl come out of there

372
00:13:38,710 --> 00:13:36,720
but uh

373
00:13:40,790 --> 00:13:38,720
she was coming toward me

374
00:13:42,069 --> 00:13:40,800
and i think it was a woman i'm pretty

375
00:13:44,790 --> 00:13:42,079
sure it was

376
00:13:47,509 --> 00:13:44,800
i didn't notice any signature things

377
00:13:48,949 --> 00:13:47,519
like her breasts or anything like that

378
00:13:50,949 --> 00:13:48,959
yeah but um

379
00:13:53,509 --> 00:13:50,959
the only thing i notice on both her

380
00:13:55,430 --> 00:13:53,519
hands are two middle fingers is longer

381
00:13:58,389 --> 00:13:55,440
but she would have been

382
00:14:00,069 --> 00:13:58,399
as i told somebody before if i'd been in

383
00:14:02,389 --> 00:14:00,079
a bar drinking i would have probably

384
00:14:04,069 --> 00:14:02,399
asked her out on a date

385
00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:04,079
and

386
00:14:09,110 --> 00:14:08,000
so anyhow she just uh

387
00:14:12,790 --> 00:14:09,120
came over

388
00:14:14,069 --> 00:14:12,800
to the table where we were where i was

389
00:14:16,710 --> 00:14:14,079
and uh

390
00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:16,720
she wasn't that bad looking and she put

391
00:14:20,870 --> 00:14:18,880
her left hand on my chin

392
00:14:22,069 --> 00:14:20,880
and pushed down on it and took her right

393
00:14:24,150 --> 00:14:22,079
hand

394
00:14:26,069 --> 00:14:24,160
and put took him two middle fingers and

395
00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:26,079
run down my throat

396
00:14:29,030 --> 00:14:27,360
now why

397
00:14:30,629 --> 00:14:29,040
she was running her fingers down my

398
00:14:32,069 --> 00:14:30,639
throat i don't know

399
00:14:34,629 --> 00:14:32,079
but i could

400
00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:34,639
it was scratchy and it was burning and

401
00:14:39,110 --> 00:14:37,440
it was hurting and i started gagging

402
00:14:41,509 --> 00:14:39,120
and when i started gagging she just

403
00:14:43,030 --> 00:14:41,519
pulled his fingers out

404
00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:43,040
and

405
00:14:52,629 --> 00:14:50,320
thought well you know me

406
00:14:54,069 --> 00:14:52,639
you've already done that you've already

407
00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:54,079
run your fingers down my throat

408
00:14:57,110 --> 00:14:55,760
scratched me up i'm bleeding everywhere

409
00:14:58,069 --> 00:14:57,120
i can't breathe

410
00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:58,079
whoa

411
00:15:01,990 --> 00:14:58,959
but

412
00:15:05,590 --> 00:15:02,000
she made a noise then like a uh mating

413
00:15:07,750 --> 00:15:05,600
call on an alligator it's moon gloom

414
00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:07,760
just like that and you could feel it

415
00:15:12,310 --> 00:15:09,519
vibrate through the ship

416
00:15:14,470 --> 00:15:12,320
now this old big ugly one i really think

417
00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:14,480
he was robotic and just taking orders

418
00:15:17,990 --> 00:15:15,600
from her

419
00:15:20,550 --> 00:15:18,000
he was over in the corner and when she

420
00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:20,560
made that noise he popped up like a jack

421
00:15:25,030 --> 00:15:22,000
in the box

422
00:15:27,509 --> 00:15:25,040
and came straight over to uh where i was

423
00:15:29,829 --> 00:15:27,519
and grabbed me by the left arm and i

424
00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:29,839
felt another injection

425
00:15:34,870 --> 00:15:32,320
yeah because i was already getting

426
00:15:36,629 --> 00:15:34,880
scared i was upset

427
00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:36,639
and i was fixing to try to get out of

428
00:15:39,990 --> 00:15:38,240
there

429
00:15:41,030 --> 00:15:40,000
now is this if i was to share this image

430
00:15:41,990 --> 00:15:41,040
here i'm going to overlay it a little

431
00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:42,000
bit because it's giving me issues

432
00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:43,440
tonight it didn't share it properly like

433
00:15:46,069 --> 00:15:44,800
i was supposed to a second oh is this is

434
00:15:47,829 --> 00:15:46,079
this close

435
00:15:50,069 --> 00:15:47,839
to what you've seen is this someone's

436
00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:50,079
rendition of that or is that is that not

437
00:15:54,150 --> 00:15:51,040
even close

438
00:15:56,230 --> 00:15:54,160
yeah larry flynn at the shipyard made

439
00:15:58,949 --> 00:15:56,240
that drone and gave it to charlie back a

440
00:15:59,749 --> 00:15:58,959
long time ago but it's pretty accurate

441
00:16:01,749 --> 00:15:59,759
oh

442
00:16:03,509 --> 00:16:01,759
so this is the creature that we're we'll

443
00:16:05,030 --> 00:16:03,519
say that i'm seeing creatures just as we

444
00:16:06,069 --> 00:16:05,040
simply don't know right now but this is

445
00:16:10,949 --> 00:16:06,079
one

446
00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:10,959
that came out okay right so no facial

447
00:16:14,870 --> 00:16:12,399
features on this too much as it was

448
00:16:17,030 --> 00:16:14,880
approaching you guys no huh

449
00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:17,040
of course we was kind of blinded from

450
00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:18,320
the light

451
00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:20,800
of the ship and uh

452
00:16:24,550 --> 00:16:22,480
you know we couldn't really

453
00:16:26,069 --> 00:16:24,560
distinguish a whole lot

454
00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:26,079
yeah

455
00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:27,040
so

456
00:16:32,949 --> 00:16:30,000
this big ugly one came back over

457
00:16:34,629 --> 00:16:32,959
and picked me up and carried me out

458
00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:34,639
of the ship

459
00:16:39,030 --> 00:16:36,800
and we got to the river and he put me

460
00:16:40,629 --> 00:16:39,040
out facing the river with my arms

461
00:16:42,310 --> 00:16:40,639
stretched out

462
00:16:44,389 --> 00:16:42,320
toward the river

463
00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:44,399
and that's the first time i heard her

464
00:16:47,990 --> 00:16:46,800
seeing charlie after that

465
00:16:49,910 --> 00:16:48,000
and charlie

466
00:16:52,550 --> 00:16:49,920
i felt something tugging on my leg and

467
00:16:54,790 --> 00:16:52,560
he said son son you okay

468
00:16:56,069 --> 00:16:54,800
i thought well heck no i'm not okay you

469
00:16:57,829 --> 00:16:56,079
know

470
00:17:00,870 --> 00:16:57,839
ain't no way you're gonna be okay

471
00:17:02,629 --> 00:17:00,880
through this but i still couldn't run

472
00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:02,639
personally i was wanting to get up get

473
00:17:07,669 --> 00:17:05,280
out there he said sit there

474
00:17:09,909 --> 00:17:07,679
let's talk for a minute

475
00:17:12,630 --> 00:17:09,919
but before that we turned around and

476
00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:12,640
look and we've seen the craft

477
00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:14,720
pick up off the ground

478
00:17:18,230 --> 00:17:16,720
get above the power lines a little bit

479
00:17:20,309 --> 00:17:18,240
just shoot off into the sky and

480
00:17:23,590 --> 00:17:20,319
disappear

481
00:17:25,750 --> 00:17:23,600
it made kind of a little zipping noise

482
00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:25,760
so i sat down on a pier because the

483
00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:28,400
damage was done i mean if they'd been

484
00:17:32,870 --> 00:17:30,480
gonna keep us or kill us they would have

485
00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:32,880
done it all

486
00:17:38,310 --> 00:17:34,320
at that time

487
00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:38,320
right so we set out up here and uh

488
00:17:42,870 --> 00:17:40,080
charlie said well we need to tell

489
00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:42,880
somebody i said charlie

490
00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:45,200
no we don't we don't need everybody we

491
00:17:48,070 --> 00:17:46,960
need to get up we need to go to work in

492
00:17:50,549 --> 00:17:48,080
the morning

493
00:17:52,549 --> 00:17:50,559
because i'm not telling nobody

494
00:17:54,470 --> 00:17:52,559
anything about this

495
00:17:56,630 --> 00:17:54,480
about what's going on or anything

496
00:17:59,270 --> 00:17:56,640
because people think we're crazy

497
00:18:01,270 --> 00:17:59,280
yeah and this is 1973 so i mean this is

498
00:18:02,549 --> 00:18:01,280
at a totally different time and era you

499
00:18:04,310 --> 00:18:02,559
know everybody right now is talking

500
00:18:05,590 --> 00:18:04,320
about you know everybody's coming out

501
00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:05,600
it's kind of okay to talk about and

502
00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:06,799
share although i mean there's still a

503
00:18:10,310 --> 00:18:08,240
lot of pushback but

504
00:18:11,909 --> 00:18:10,320
man 1973 was

505
00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:11,919
you've been crazy town to come out and

506
00:18:15,830 --> 00:18:13,280
start chatting about this and you're

507
00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:15,840
your game you just didn't do it back in

508
00:18:19,990 --> 00:18:17,520
exactly

509
00:18:22,230 --> 00:18:20,000
and you know what people don't realize

510
00:18:23,510 --> 00:18:22,240
there was no cell phones and what no

511
00:18:25,830 --> 00:18:23,520
computers

512
00:18:29,830 --> 00:18:25,840
what no social media

513
00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:29,840
nothing like that you just uh

514
00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:31,840
if you use the phone you went to a store

515
00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:33,600
and put a nickel in it and used phone to

516
00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:36,000
win in your house

517
00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:38,240
so we talked about this for just a few

518
00:18:42,310 --> 00:18:40,480
minutes there and i told charlie i said

519
00:18:44,549 --> 00:18:42,320
off

520
00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:44,559
you know let's just get up go to work in

521
00:18:50,789 --> 00:18:47,919
the morning not tell nobody okay okay

522
00:18:53,190 --> 00:18:50,799
well on the way out we got made our way

523
00:18:54,789 --> 00:18:53,200
back to the car it took about 15 minutes

524
00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:54,799
from where we were to get back to the

525
00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:57,840
car and i noticed the

526
00:19:02,470 --> 00:19:00,240
window on the passenger side the windows

527
00:19:04,070 --> 00:19:02,480
was just shattered in place you know

528
00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:04,080
they were still there but they was kind

529
00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:06,640
of shattered in place

530
00:19:11,190 --> 00:19:08,880
and when he charlie opened that door i

531
00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:11,200
was driving it was my car

532
00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:13,200
when he opened the door the window fell

533
00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:14,400
out

534
00:19:20,549 --> 00:19:15,120
so

535
00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:20,559
we got in the car and i like to never

536
00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:22,400
did get the crank we finally got it

537
00:19:26,470 --> 00:19:24,400
cranked we started in

538
00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:26,480
well on the way back to the apartment we

539
00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:28,559
didn't really say a whole lot to each

540
00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:30,160
other it's just a few minutes to where

541
00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:31,919
we was going

542
00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:33,440
charlie said uh

543
00:19:38,549 --> 00:19:36,320
there's a store right here pull over

544
00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:38,559
well like i say back then it wasn't no

545
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:41,440
phones anywhere it was a store with a

546
00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:42,960
pay phone in it

547
00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:44,400
and of course

548
00:19:48,390 --> 00:19:45,679
both of us

549
00:19:51,029 --> 00:19:48,400
broke and it didn't take but

550
00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:51,039
two nickels to make a phone call

551
00:19:55,830 --> 00:19:53,520
we didn't have no change with us

552
00:19:57,510 --> 00:19:55,840
so we looked up under the seat and came

553
00:19:58,390 --> 00:19:57,520
up with that change and make a phone

554
00:20:01,430 --> 00:19:58,400
call

555
00:20:02,950 --> 00:20:01,440
wife

556
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:02,960
right don't tell her you know we're

557
00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:04,480
running a little bit late we'll be home

558
00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:07,600
in a few minutes and charlie was a bit

559
00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:09,280
early 40s there maybe is that about

560
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:11,600
right yeah i think i forget i think he

561
00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:15,200
was 44. 44. there we go there was a

562
00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:18,000
pretty good age difference i was uh 18

563
00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:21,200
he was 44. okay very nice yeah i mean

564
00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:23,440
that's that's pretty significant too to

565
00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:27,280
have that kind of experience at 18 yeah

566
00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:28,480
so

567
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:30,799
i've seen charlie drop that down in the

568
00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:33,120
phone and uh

569
00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:35,919
a few minutes she'd come back he said

570
00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:37,760
well they're not taking reports right

571
00:20:42,310 --> 00:20:39,520
now they said call the local i said

572
00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:42,320
who's not taking reports charlie

573
00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:44,960
he said keister air force base

574
00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:47,120
i called them they said that uh they

575
00:20:50,789 --> 00:20:48,559
don't take

576
00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:50,799
reports like this anymore to call the

577
00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:52,080
local law

578
00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:53,840
law enforcement

579
00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:55,679
i said i thought you wasn't going to

580
00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:57,679
tell nobody i thought we wasn't going to

581
00:21:01,510 --> 00:20:59,760
tell nobody he said well i call it

582
00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:01,520
caller jackson county sheriff's

583
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:03,039
department

584
00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:05,200
so we struggled around and found another

585
00:21:10,149 --> 00:21:07,280
net down

586
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,159
and he called and of course i was

587
00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:11,919
driving

588
00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:13,679
and uh

589
00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:15,760
who they gonna question when they pull

590
00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:17,760
up the one driving

591
00:21:20,950 --> 00:21:19,440
he called them they said don't y'all

592
00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:20,960
don't go anywhere cause they really

593
00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:22,720
thought we was drinking and drunk or

594
00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:24,000
something

595
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:26,400
yeah y'all sit right there until we see

596
00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:28,240
y'all

597
00:21:39,270 --> 00:21:36,470
yeah well i was afraid to leave then you

598
00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:39,280
know 18 years old and uh

599
00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:41,280
i had that blue light syndrome all ready

600
00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:44,640
for just a little bit ago and they

601
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:47,039
pulled up and of course first thing they

602
00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:49,600
did come to my side of the car

603
00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:51,840
asked for id of course back in you

604
00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:53,360
didn't have to carry insurance or

605
00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:54,480
anything

606
00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:56,159
looked in the car

607
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:59,440
and asked me to step out

608
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:01,039
so i stepped out of the car and the

609
00:22:06,149 --> 00:22:04,000
first thing they did was uh

610
00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:06,159
you been drinking tonight no

611
00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:08,559
not yet but i'm going to

612
00:22:11,909 --> 00:22:10,240
as soon as i get home

613
00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:11,919
they said well we need to give you a

614
00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:13,600
sobriety test

615
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:16,000
he said if you would

616
00:22:20,950 --> 00:22:18,480
stand on your left leg pick your right

617
00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:20,960
leg up lean your head back close your

618
00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:22,960
eyes touch your nose and jump up and

619
00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:24,559
down on one foot

620
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:26,720
i said man i can't do that sober much

621
00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:29,360
less have i've been drinking

622
00:22:34,149 --> 00:22:32,080
there's no reason for this

623
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:34,159
but i tried it you know i went through

624
00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:36,559
all the little things he said then walk

625
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:39,120
a little learn and close your eyes and

626
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:41,360
touch your nose and things like that you

627
00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:43,360
know just feeling like an idiot and i

628
00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:44,880
respect it all the time i'm going to

629
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:50,710
okay so he's just sitting there and they

630
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:52,799
got you up here performing a show for

631
00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:55,360
him huh yeah and he's the one that

632
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:56,559
called

633
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:58,320
and i thought well i'm gonna kill him

634
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:00,480
when i get back in his car

635
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:02,640
because he shouldn't have never called

636
00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:04,159
the law

637
00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:06,559
well we went through all this they said

638
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:08,000
well follow me to the sheriff's

639
00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:10,799
department over here

640
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:13,280
i said okay we've had it

641
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:15,840
so i got in close the door

642
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:17,280
of course if they thought i'd been

643
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:18,880
drinking i never would have drove to the

644
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:20,799
sheriff's department

645
00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:22,720
i got in i would assume

646
00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:23,840
yeah

647
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:26,159
close the door crank the car of course i

648
00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:28,159
was mad right there but charlie i didn't

649
00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:29,760
say nothing

650
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:30,880
and uh

651
00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:33,360
i just started following them and we got

652
00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:35,200
to the sheriff's department we come in

653
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:37,919
the first thing they do was split us up

654
00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:40,000
they took him to a room in the back and

655
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:42,320
took me to a different room

656
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:44,960
well i didn't know up until uh about

657
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:47,919
three months ago they had recorded

658
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:50,640
every word that we said you know before

659
00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:53,840
the interrogation in the interrogation

660
00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,080
and after while we was together in the

661
00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:58,640
interrogation and i got a copy of them

662
00:24:02,390 --> 00:23:59,679
tapes

663
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,400
but uh the recordings what

664
00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:04,960
really convinced them

665
00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:07,760
so they took him to a room they took me

666
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:09,919
to a room they asked us a few questions

667
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:13,120
put us in a room together

668
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:15,039
and listened to what we was having to

669
00:24:17,830 --> 00:24:16,720
say

670
00:24:20,149 --> 00:24:17,840
so

671
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:20,159
this uh recording is what really

672
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:22,320
convinced them

673
00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:24,799
that we was being honest with with them

674
00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:26,640
and with each other

675
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:28,880
and finally the sheriff come out he said

676
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:30,720
uh

677
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:36,240
diamond and he was known to be pretty

678
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:37,520
strict

679
00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:39,360
he came in and i

680
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:41,200
walked through the door

681
00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:42,880
and he said why don't y'all go to bed

682
00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:44,480
and get some rest and i'll see y'all

683
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:46,320
tomorrow.

684
00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:48,080
i said well why don't you need to see us

685
00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:50,159
tomorrow he said well i'll talk to you

686
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:52,159
tomorrow y'all go to bed y'all scared

687
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:53,520
y'all upset

688
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:55,440
get some rest it'll just be better for

689
00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:56,960
everybody

690
00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:00,480
but another thing i didn't know while we

691
00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:02,159
was sitting there

692
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:04,640
you know word hadn't got out yet

693
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:07,679
there was over 50 phone calls come into

694
00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:11,120
dispatch about saying this ufo

695
00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:13,279
absolutely that's one of the things that

696
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:16,400
made this a real credible site now this

697
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:18,400
is before everybody knew we had been

698
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:19,600
abducted

699
00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:23,840
50 phone calls to investigate this

700
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:27,279
and i saw documented uh philip manor put

701
00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:30,559
it in a book and documented all that

702
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:32,080
so

703
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:38,630
the next day i heard a radio station was

704
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:41,120
interviewed now how this got out to the

705
00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:44,640
news media i have no idea

706
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:47,440
but we got went home i took

707
00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:49,520
went in took a shower pulled all my

708
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:51,440
clothes off because i had blood all over

709
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:52,799
me

710
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:54,720
uh there was a gallon of the bleach in

711
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:56,480
the shower and i poured that bleach over

712
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:58,240
the top of my head

713
00:26:03,110 --> 00:26:00,960
and rinsed it off and you know that was

714
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:03,120
old bleach so it was strong

715
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:05,039
i got out of the shower and i put all my

716
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:08,240
clothes into a bag even my shoes

717
00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:10,320
and i carried them out to a dumpster

718
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:12,480
they was in a paper bag they didn't have

719
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:15,520
plastic bags back in

720
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:17,440
and went in there and went to bed when

721
00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:19,760
we got up the next morning charlie was

722
00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:21,520
already up

723
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:24,320
and when i got up and of course i didn't

724
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:25,679
sleep that night

725
00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:27,679
and we went into work

726
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:30,000
and when we got there i noticed of

727
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:32,240
course this was my second day

728
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,480
i noticed there was a lot of cars around

729
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:36,400
there and all these big trucks with

730
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:38,480
these uplinks sticking up in there these

731
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:40,080
tv trucks

732
00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:41,520
yeah back then they

733
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:43,600
had these up links and they jack them up

734
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:46,640
on a satellite somewhere

735
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:48,559
but uh i still didn't think nothing of

736
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:49,679
it i said well they're doing a

737
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:52,480
commercial for the shipyard or something

738
00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:55,840
we brassed in and when before we got his

739
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:58,400
thing good we heard our names called on

740
00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:00,000
the intercom

741
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:02,240
calvin parker charlie hicks and y'all

742
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:05,200
come to the office i said uh-oh

743
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:07,440
so we walked to the office

744
00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:09,279
and we got there he said

745
00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:11,120
y'all gonna have to give a press release

746
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:13,679
this is ridiculous we cannot conduct

747
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:14,960
business here

748
00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:17,200
our phones are ringing off the hook they

749
00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:20,559
get no calls in or anything and back

750
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,640
then that's how you did business was on

751
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:24,559
a phone or fast

752
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:25,360
yeah

753
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:27,520
so um

754
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:30,240
i said press release for what course i

755
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:32,240
was playing stupid

756
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:33,440
i said

757
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:35,600
there's nothing in relation to the press

758
00:27:40,389 --> 00:27:38,159
what what are we gonna have to do

759
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:40,399
he said i got an attorney a shipyard

760
00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:43,520
attorney joe domingo coming down

761
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:47,279
and y'all issue a press release to him

762
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:48,960
and we're gonna run it and then we get

763
00:27:54,070 --> 00:27:52,000
to step out of the way here

764
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,080
and so i still didn't say nothing you

765
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:56,480
know of course charlie he

766
00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:58,640
he was all for being in the public eye

767
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:01,360
right then on a press release

768
00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:04,640
really he talked to uh joe clamingo and

769
00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:07,279
him and joe set up a thing

770
00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:10,159
and did a little press release

771
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:12,880
and they put it on the errand buddy

772
00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:15,360
it was gone it was thousands of

773
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:18,320
reporters thousands of people but every

774
00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:20,960
news media in the world i'm not talking

775
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:23,279
about just the united states

776
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:25,520
every news media in the world picked up

777
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:27,440
on this story back then

778
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:29,600
well that made my life kind of a living

779
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:31,039
hell because

780
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:33,039
you know everybody

781
00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:35,679
wants to know what happened you know of

782
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:37,440
course whether they believed you or not

783
00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:39,120
that don't really matter they still

784
00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:40,799
wanted to hear the story and wanted to

785
00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:42,640
know about it

786
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:45,279
so uh

787
00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:48,159
he did the press release and went in to

788
00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:50,640
make a long story short the sheriff

789
00:28:57,669 --> 00:28:53,919
showed up there like he said he would

790
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:57,679
and he said y'all need to uh

791
00:29:02,310 --> 00:29:00,799
go to the emergency room at sangon river

792
00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:02,320
hospital i'm gonna carry y'all down

793
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:04,399
there and have you checked

794
00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:06,559
so he carried us to the emergency room

795
00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:09,679
they did blood work we seen dr bosco

796
00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:12,480
he did a thorough exam on us and he said

797
00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:14,559
i don't believe they carry no viruses or

798
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:16,640
nothing right now

799
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:18,960
so he said

800
00:29:23,110 --> 00:29:20,880
you need to take them and have them

801
00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:23,120
check for radiation

802
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:26,399
and i thought what the heck is going on

803
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:27,440
so

804
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:29,600
they called keystone air force base and

805
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:32,320
they was already on standby

806
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:36,159
and the sheriff drove us to easter

807
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:37,520
and uh

808
00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:39,679
when we pulled up they just flagged us

809
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:41,520
right on in the gates

810
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:44,960
and had a mp take us to the back

811
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:47,520
and they was five or six guys i didn't

812
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:49,919
really get a head count sitting there in

813
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:52,720
yellow hazmat suits

814
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:56,640
and uh told us to get out of the car

815
00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:57,600
and

816
00:30:03,430 --> 00:29:59,760
they took us to the side they scanned us

817
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:03,440
for radiation somehow

818
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:05,919
and i heard them say all clear well i

819
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:09,200
was kind of tickled to hear that

820
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:10,559
uh

821
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:13,120
then they said look the brass

822
00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:14,960
wants to see y'all y'all walk down this

823
00:30:19,029 --> 00:30:17,279
hall there's a conference room at the

824
00:30:21,909 --> 00:30:19,039
end of it

825
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:21,919
and they want to talk to y'all in there

826
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:22,880
well

827
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,200
you know it was too late to turn around

828
00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:27,120
and go back anywhere

829
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:29,360
so i followed the

830
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,600
that officer down the hall or that guy

831
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:33,279
that carried us down there me and

832
00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:35,039
charlie and the sheriff

833
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:36,880
and we got in there and there was a room

834
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:37,840
full

835
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:40,320
and they had all kind of military people

836
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:42,000
police departments

837
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:45,520
every mayor and ever

838
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:46,799
everybody

839
00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:48,720
from the public works department to the

840
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:50,320
police department

841
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:54,480
was in there from three coastal counties

842
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:56,480
so they wanted to know what happened and

843
00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:58,320
that's where i started stonewalling

844
00:31:02,149 --> 00:30:59,519
canada

845
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:02,159
i talked to uh keisler a little bit you

846
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:05,039
know and i told them that maine brass

847
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:06,799
but i wasn't about to sit out there and

848
00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:09,600
open myself up for the rest of it

849
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:12,559
so i told him just as little as i could

850
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:14,240
and i kind of put the

851
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:16,559
monkey on charlie's back

852
00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:18,960
because he was older and uh

853
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:21,279
you know they he was willing to talk and

854
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:23,440
all fart he loved his five minutes of

855
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:24,960
fame

856
00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:26,880
and uh

857
00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:29,120
i said well this all thank you to myself

858
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,279
this all be over with and dare two we'll

859
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:33,840
go back to work

860
00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:36,480
so on the way back in the sheriff took

861
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:38,960
us loaded us back up in his car

862
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:40,880
we was driving back to the shipyard

863
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:43,200
where my car was he said look son he

864
00:31:45,990 --> 00:31:44,399
said no

865
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,000
there's somebody at the shipyard that

866
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:48,480
wants to talk to you

867
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:50,240
i said well you know that's

868
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:52,000
been every day somebody's wanting to

869
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:54,880
talk to us since last night

870
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:57,360
and i said we got in there he said this

871
00:32:02,389 --> 00:31:59,120
is dr honey

872
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:02,399
he used to be over project blue book

873
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:05,120
now how he got down there that fast i

874
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:06,480
don't know

875
00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:08,799
but you know they had a quit project

876
00:32:14,789 --> 00:32:11,679
blue book but dr john allen heineck was

877
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:14,799
carried on his uh

878
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:17,360
own investigations on things

879
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:19,919
so he had brought a doctor dr harter

880
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:22,880
from the university of california down

881
00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:24,080
with him

882
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,240
and they took us in a room

883
00:32:31,269 --> 00:32:28,559
and uh

884
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:31,279
dr heineck he just gave me a safe

885
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:33,760
feeling because you know you could tell

886
00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:36,399
he was real warm about things and

887
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:37,679
reaching out

888
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:40,240
and uh

889
00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:42,080
you you could just tell he was a good

890
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:44,240
person kind of give you the grandfather

891
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:46,320
image he would sit there with his hand

892
00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:49,600
on his chin like that look at you

893
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:51,919
and just not say a word and then he'd

894
00:32:56,950 --> 00:32:54,080
ask you a question

895
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:56,960
so dr harder took charlie to the room

896
00:33:00,789 --> 00:32:58,960
and examined him

897
00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:00,799
hypnotized him

898
00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:03,519
and while dr heineck interviewed me

899
00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:05,519
then when we got out we kind of swapped

900
00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:06,640
around

901
00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:09,440
dr harder took me to the back

902
00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:12,399
i'll give you an examination hypnotize

903
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:13,760
me

904
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:15,600
and uh

905
00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:17,440
dr heineck

906
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:19,919
then asked us well

907
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:21,679
i'm going to the site where this

908
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:25,279
happened y'all gonna be in here tomorrow

909
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:26,880
and i said yeah

910
00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:28,880
but before we left the guy that owned

911
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,679
the shipyard come in he said look

912
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:33,840
this is just too much pressure around

913
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:36,559
here i got a job to do we got things we

914
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,320
got to live living to make

915
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:40,399
i don't need y'all around so make a long

916
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:43,120
story short

917
00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:44,640
i

918
00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:51,600
day

919
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:54,799
they hated him on fire right he did say

920
00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:57,200
you know i'm gonna pay y'all week to

921
00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:00,000
take off and i come back i said okay

922
00:34:03,909 --> 00:34:01,760
[Laughter]

923
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:03,919
and i don't think i ever got my week's

924
00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:05,440
pay i don't know

925
00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:08,000
oh man he owes you a little bit now

926
00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:10,639
that's it yeah

927
00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:17,190
when i left there i went home pat my

928
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:19,040
clothes put in the car

929
00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:21,200
and i went just straight back to laurel

930
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:23,679
mississippi as what i could drive

931
00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:25,760
and that's where i shut down i didn't

932
00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:27,839
talk about this to nobody

933
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:30,560
right not my wife not my family not

934
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:32,240
anybody of course i wasn't married at

935
00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:33,280
the time

936
00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:35,760
i was due to get married

937
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:38,560
uh november the 9th

938
00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:41,760
and this october the 11th

939
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:44,000
and i didn't think i really would

940
00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:45,760
because you know

941
00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:48,320
her daddy was pretty heavy-handed and i

942
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:50,960
knew when news media hit this that that

943
00:34:56,069 --> 00:34:53,679
would wear the marriage up

944
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:56,079
but it it didn't we

945
00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:57,599
we got married

946
00:35:01,829 --> 00:34:59,839
and i never talked about this to my

947
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:01,839
family or to my friends

948
00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:04,320
until the book came out

949
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:07,280
now what brought the book out why i even

950
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:10,240
opened up started talking this was uh

951
00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:12,480
46 years later

952
00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:14,720
we had a neighbor that passed away from

953
00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:18,320
aneurysm that lived right there below us

954
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:21,200
so my wife and i went to the wake

955
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:23,920
and i've never signed

956
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:25,760
i've been down here all my life and i

957
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:28,079
never signed my name and all

958
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,640
in public for nothing and i just

959
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:32,400
happened to sign the register at the

960
00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:34,320
funeral home that night

961
00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:37,200
well people started recognizing the name

962
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:39,200
and it was a flock of people that come

963
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:41,040
around they was wanting pictures and all

964
00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:44,640
that so you know wait a minute we had a

965
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:47,200
man awake over here

966
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:49,359
his wife his daughter's in there

967
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:52,079
grieving now i don't need this attention

968
00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:53,440
so right

969
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:56,240
we me and my wife got no truck and we

970
00:36:01,990 --> 00:35:59,520
drive me back home she said you know

971
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:02,000
people seem to really love you and care

972
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:04,960
about you and care what you have to say

973
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:07,440
why don't you write a book

974
00:36:11,589 --> 00:36:09,680
of course doing anything i could to get

975
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:11,599
her off my case i've never talked to her

976
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:13,680
about it even up to me and

977
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:14,800
that's what i was just about to ask you

978
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,560
so when she suggested this about you

979
00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:18,560
writing the book she didn't know or do

980
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:19,839
you think i mean

981
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:22,720
what she knew something had happened she

982
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:25,359
knew about that because the news media

983
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:27,440
had it plastered everywhere

984
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:30,400
but me and her had never talked about it

985
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:32,720
now you talk about upsetting a woman you

986
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:35,520
keep a secret from her 46 years don't

987
00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:37,040
talk about something

988
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:39,839
she even asked me one or two times and i

989
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,280
just shut down

990
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:43,440
wouldn't say nothing

991
00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:44,880
so

992
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:45,920
uh

993
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:48,079
to get her off my back about the book i

994
00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:49,280
said oh

995
00:36:52,829 --> 00:36:50,800
you know why now i don't have an

996
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:52,839
education

997
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:55,040
uh i don't

998
00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:58,800
i can't spell my own name much less book

999
00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:59,599
so

1000
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:01,760
i had to think about all this that was

1001
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:03,520
just to get her off the case and i was

1002
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:05,680
just gonna blow it off and forget about

1003
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:06,720
it

1004
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:10,240
but i happened to be uh fishing

1005
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:12,079
two or three days later and i was at the

1006
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:15,440
boat landing and my phone rang

1007
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:16,960
well uh

1008
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:18,160
he said

1009
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:20,720
it was martin willis i had did a podcast

1010
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:23,119
with him okay one of the first ones i

1011
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:26,240
ever did back a long time ago

1012
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:28,480
i mean back when this first happened and

1013
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:32,800
he said look there's a guy from the uk

1014
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:35,760
wanting your contact information

1015
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:37,359
could i give him your contact

1016
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:40,240
information he's wearing me to death

1017
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:42,480
i said yeah i guess so

1018
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:45,200
well it was phillip mental which is from

1019
00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:47,920
the uk he's a publisher in my book

1020
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:49,599
he called up

1021
00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:51,280
and uh

1022
00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:54,079
he said calvin he wanted to ask me some

1023
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:57,359
questions about charlie and his book

1024
00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:59,040
of course i didn't really want to talk

1025
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:01,280
to him i didn't want to answer nothing

1026
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:02,480
he said

1027
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:05,680
i know

1028
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:07,520
you don't get out because of the news

1029
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:08,960
media you know

1030
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:11,599
why don't you write a book

1031
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:13,520
that's your legacy

1032
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:15,839
and that way it's documented and they

1033
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:17,680
can't change your story because i know

1034
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,079
you've been having trouble with that

1035
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:22,560
and it really got to make a lot of sense

1036
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:24,079
to me

1037
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:25,920
what he said

1038
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:27,920
and uh

1039
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:30,960
so i said well give me a week

1040
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:32,720
call me back let me think about it and

1041
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:35,200
i'll talk to my wife about it

1042
00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:37,200
well during the time he hung up i just

1043
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:40,000
put on my phone you know on that number

1044
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:41,359
no answer

1045
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:43,520
i had no intentions of talking to the

1046
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:45,680
man again in my life

1047
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:47,440
but i happened to be back down at the

1048
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:49,680
boat landing again and my phone rang and

1049
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:51,200
i just grabbed it up to answer it

1050
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:52,800
because it kept ringing

1051
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:55,599
and it was phillip battle

1052
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:58,000
so we sat there and talked a few minutes

1053
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:00,240
and i said well phillip you know the all

1054
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:03,119
the way the only way i would do a book i

1055
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:06,480
said i don't have any education

1056
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:09,200
said i can't spell nothing

1057
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:11,760
if you don't correct nothing in it

1058
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,760
if i write a book i want it to be in my

1059
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:15,839
words and i want it to run just like it

1060
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:17,119
is

1061
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,720
that's not good i said you just gotta

1062
00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:23,200
we got a deal if you uh

1063
00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:25,839
do that and i i don't want not even a

1064
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:29,200
misspelled word correct he said i assure

1065
00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:31,440
you it won't be if that's what you want

1066
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:33,920
and the man stood by his

1067
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:36,400
by his word on all that

1068
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:38,240
i said well

1069
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:40,960
send me 10 books phillip

1070
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:43,040
and what i was going to do i was going

1071
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:45,440
to uh give one to each one of my family

1072
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:48,160
members and friends and my wife

1073
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:49,280
my

1074
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:50,480
daughter

1075
00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:53,040
and i wasn't going to tell them the

1076
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:54,800
story i was going to let them read about

1077
00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:55,680
it

1078
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,880
so he sent me 10 books when they came

1079
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:00,480
out

1080
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:03,280
but the book was so popular we was due

1081
00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:04,960
to

1082
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:07,680
release this thing on a september in

1083
00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:09,040
september

1084
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:11,520
and somehow word got out

1085
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:13,520
two months before that

1086
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:15,599
and he had to release the book early it

1087
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:17,200
just dropped everything that he was

1088
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:18,160
doing

1089
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:20,640
it was number one best seller

1090
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:22,560
and that really surprised me because

1091
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,200
like i say uneducated don't know how to

1092
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:27,440
form words

1093
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:29,920
excuse me

1094
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:31,359
but uh

1095
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:33,359
it was out there and that got it started

1096
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:35,680
and that led to another book because we

1097
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:44,150
irene scott would interview the

1098
00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:46,400
witnesses and write them down

1099
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:47,440
because

1100
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:49,520
philip is one of the greatest guys i

1101
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:52,160
know he's a good friend now we became

1102
00:40:55,030 --> 00:40:53,599
friends

1103
00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:55,040
and uh

1104
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:57,440
he does everything he says

1105
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,480
but he's from the uk and he don't have

1106
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:02,640
easy access to something

1107
00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:05,040
somebody from the states over here does

1108
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:06,960
and the man don't speak good english

1109
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:09,920
good redneck english anyway so

1110
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,680
that's where they invented the english

1111
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:13,200
language

1112
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:15,920
so he got dr irene scott to interview

1113
00:41:20,309 --> 00:41:18,240
these people and matter of fact she's

1114
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:20,319
doing a book off the one she interviewed

1115
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:21,119
now

1116
00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:23,520
so this story keeps spinning off it's in

1117
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:26,400
six or seven different languages now

1118
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:28,640
the book we've been on the best sellers

1119
00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:30,720
list twice

1120
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:32,720
and there's another

1121
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:33,599
book

1122
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:35,680
uh that we wrote that i really liked it

1123
00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:38,319
came out uh

1124
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:41,440
it's passpagula the story continues new

1125
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:43,839
witnesses new people or something like

1126
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:46,319
that i don't even remember some of the

1127
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,160
titles i've been through so much here

1128
00:41:51,829 --> 00:41:49,839
lately

1129
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:51,839
but anyhow that's kind of what got us

1130
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:54,079
started right there

1131
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:56,160
and it's been

1132
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:58,480
a battle ever since

1133
00:42:02,069 --> 00:42:00,319
and if anybody wants like i said i have

1134
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:02,079
the links if you're listening in podcast

1135
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:03,920
format you just slide down that'll be in

1136
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:05,280
their links for you as well as those

1137
00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:07,119
that are watching on youtube i have

1138
00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:09,119
links to both of those books and i will

1139
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:11,520
also uh drop it here in the chat in just

1140
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:13,440
a second for anybody that might be

1141
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:16,480
curious so i i have so many questions

1142
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:18,079
uh even going back to the beginning of

1143
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:19,520
this but i i would love to see if

1144
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:20,560
there's anything else you'd like to

1145
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:21,920
share first and then i would like to

1146
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:23,760
kind of jump back to the experience

1147
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:25,040
itself and have a couple questions in

1148
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:26,880
regards to that if you're okay with it

1149
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:29,280
no that's fine oh

1150
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:31,920
i can't think of anything now this is my

1151
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:34,560
first podcast several months

1152
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:37,119
you know they diagnosed me with uh

1153
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:39,359
kidney cancer they took my kidney and it

1154
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:41,359
had spread to my lungs so i'm getting

1155
00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:44,240
chemothermal lung cancer and i get sick

1156
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:46,400
pretty easy i mean this old age ain't

1157
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:52,470
i got 48 years behind my back

1158
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:55,599
and that much with my wife and

1159
00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:57,280
also

1160
00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:59,680
but anyhow you know i kind of get weak

1161
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:01,119
and sick every now and then other than

1162
00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:03,920
that everything's going good

1163
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:05,520
yeah what i was just saying i was

1164
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:08,079
extremely happy to see that uh

1165
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:10,400
everything worked out for you there um

1166
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:11,760
excuse me i know we had a lot of people

1167
00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:12,720
with uh

1168
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:14,160
sending out their prayers or positive

1169
00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:15,520
thoughts and vibes to you because i know

1170
00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:17,599
you had a rough go of it there and i'm

1171
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:20,079
very honored very honored that you were

1172
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:22,240
able to uh even come on and hang out

1173
00:43:25,829 --> 00:43:23,839
with us here and share your story oh

1174
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:25,839
this is my first show since i've been

1175
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:31,910
with cancer now and lost my kidney

1176
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:33,760
of course my other kidney's shutting

1177
00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:36,319
down right now and uh

1178
00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:38,880
they talking about dialysis i said no i

1179
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:40,640
ain't gonna live on no machine all my

1180
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:41,760
life

1181
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:43,920
you know what it is is what it is when

1182
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:46,160
god gets ready and i'm a firm believer

1183
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:47,359
in god

1184
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:49,200
when he gets ready he's gonna get you i

1185
00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:51,680
don't care what machine you own

1186
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:53,920
yeah you just kind of promote things a

1187
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:55,119
little bit

1188
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:56,800
but other than that everything's going

1189
00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:58,480
fine i've started that doing a little

1190
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:01,119
fishing here lately there we go

1191
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:02,800
that's always peaceful right just to get

1192
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:03,920
over here

1193
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:06,480
speaking of that now i want to jump back

1194
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:07,200
to

1195
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:10,560
the original encounter um but i also

1196
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:11,760
before i even go there i actually want

1197
00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:13,200
to go back just a little bit further

1198
00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:14,160
than that

1199
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:16,079
i would love to ask

1200
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:17,440
growing up

1201
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:18,640
now that you've gone through some of

1202
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:20,960
this have you

1203
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:23,040
look back on any experiences when you

1204
00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:25,440
were younger as a kid maybe any crazy

1205
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:27,599
dreams or just anything that

1206
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:29,359
you think could have been an encounter

1207
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:32,240
prior to this one when you were 18.

1208
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:36,160
you know that's strange that you asset

1209
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:38,560
my brother we had a small house coming

1210
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:40,079
up we was

1211
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:43,280
uh around the year that kennedy died oh

1212
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:45,119
so you can

1213
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:47,440
and the reason i remark at is to give

1214
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:49,520
you a timeline there

1215
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:51,920
and we had to sleep together in the same

1216
00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:52,800
room

1217
00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:54,720
in the same bed because we lived in a

1218
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:56,480
small house

1219
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:58,319
well my brother was in a bed on the

1220
00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:00,000
other side over there

1221
00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:02,240
and he started screaming he said uh

1222
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,319
people there's a they used to call me

1223
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:06,560
peewee there's a ghost blowing in your

1224
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:07,680
ear

1225
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:11,680
and he got everybody in and sure enough

1226
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:12,880
you know

1227
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,280
my parents had kind of seen

1228
00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:17,440
something too

1229
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:20,000
but uh i think it might have started

1230
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:21,520
right then

1231
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:23,680
and then through the years you know i

1232
00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:25,200
really can't

1233
00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:28,160
can't say but i had feelings you know

1234
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:30,880
fishing trips and just feelings you know

1235
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:33,440
yeah that it could be something

1236
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:35,760
but i i never will forget that night

1237
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:37,599
there's a ghost blowing in your ear and

1238
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:39,520
my ear was when

1239
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:42,960
i don't know what had happened

1240
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:45,040
yeah that's uh

1241
00:45:48,790 --> 00:45:47,040
man i i and no one else in your family

1242
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,800
had ever talked about any i mean i know

1243
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:50,480
things were things were a lot different

1244
00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:52,640
back then i understand that but no one

1245
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:54,800
else had expressed any any uh

1246
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,319
experiences

1247
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:58,560
similar to anything like that any ghost

1248
00:46:03,109 --> 00:46:00,319
related things or just other than that

1249
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:03,119
pretty normal childhood no uh pretty

1250
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:05,200
normal you know for back then

1251
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:06,960
you got up in the morning you did your

1252
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:09,839
chores at work you walked to school and

1253
00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:11,599
then when you got back you did some more

1254
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:14,160
chores and your homework you went to bed

1255
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:16,400
that's right and

1256
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:18,240
you know i was raised on the indian

1257
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:19,760
reservation

1258
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:21,599
and we didn't even have electricity

1259
00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:23,440
until i was all

1260
00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:26,079
12 years old

1261
00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:28,319
but i was brought up on that seminole

1262
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:34,230
very nice

1263
00:46:36,870 --> 00:46:35,760
that's yeah i don't think a lot of

1264
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:36,880
people

1265
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:38,240
you know it's so funny when we lose

1266
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:39,760
power now here and there and if it's out

1267
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:42,960
for more than uh oh man 12 hours it can

1268
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:44,720
get rough as the boys you know joe and

1269
00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:46,240
ben nother in texas anybody that was in

1270
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:48,079
texas knows from uh

1271
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:49,680
the snowpocalypse that they had last

1272
00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:52,640
year there um sort of yeah i grew up

1273
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:54,000
with that without the electricity my

1274
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:55,280
grandpa kind of had the same experience

1275
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:56,560
and it was funny to hear how he used to

1276
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:58,560
say but they had to um be careful

1277
00:47:01,750 --> 00:46:59,760
because they lived up in the u.p you

1278
00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:01,760
know i'm in michigan and they said the

1279
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:03,040
snow would come in and if they weren't

1280
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:04,800
careful it would freeze their pillows

1281
00:47:08,950 --> 00:47:06,960
and stuff to the walls you know so they

1282
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:08,960
had to put enough insulation there and

1283
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:10,560
it's it's funny that's only we're only

1284
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:12,240
two generations away from that you know

1285
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:15,359
i remember us uh taking old newspapers

1286
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:16,079
and

1287
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:20,079
the cracks so the house keep the wind

1288
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:22,000
from blowing through

1289
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:23,280
but uh

1290
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:25,280
when katrina came through

1291
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:27,040
of course we had eight foot of water in

1292
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:28,880
the house and it went out

1293
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:31,280
and we was that electricity for about

1294
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:33,280
six weeks and i thought that was the

1295
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:34,720
worst thing that's ever happened but

1296
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:37,119
then i got to thank you back

1297
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:38,319
you know shoot we didn't have

1298
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:40,960
electricity we didn't have tvs

1299
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:42,960
didn't have a bathroom in the house we

1300
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:44,559
had an outhouse

1301
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:47,680
yeah and uh we made it we made it fine

1302
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:49,119
so that's right

1303
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:51,200
i didn't worry about it

1304
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:53,680
so i'd love to um and real quick i wanna

1305
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:55,119
like i said guys i'm gonna i'm gonna

1306
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:56,400
start once we get through some of the

1307
00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:57,839
questions i have any questions i'll let

1308
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:58,880
you know when you open up just make sure

1309
00:48:01,510 --> 00:48:00,240
you put them in in caps for me and i'll

1310
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:01,520
get back to them as soon as possible and

1311
00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:03,119
then like i said the for anybody i know

1312
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:04,400
a lot of people in here that might not

1313
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:06,000
have been when i first mentioned it i

1314
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:07,359
will try to open it up near the last

1315
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:08,800
half hour 40 minutes that we have with

1316
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:10,319
kelvin for people to come in and ask

1317
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:11,760
some quick questions in person if

1318
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:13,920
possible um so just keep that in mind so

1319
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:15,359
you might be able to do that

1320
00:48:18,549 --> 00:48:16,720
as long as you've got headsets and a

1321
00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:18,559
good internet connection there

1322
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:21,920
um but now jumping to this experience

1323
00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:24,160
i can definitely relate not as much as

1324
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:25,440
you were doing but i i've put in some

1325
00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:27,040
long hours before uh it sounds like if

1326
00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:28,400
i'm not mistaken you're you're a pipe

1327
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:30,400
fitter right by trade there

1328
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:32,480
yes sir yeah okay very nice so that's

1329
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:34,000
what i've been doing for the past uh six

1330
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:35,280
seven years here

1331
00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:38,400
yes sir i really enjoyed it i hated to

1332
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:39,680
give it up

1333
00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:41,440
yeah it's hard work

1334
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:42,720
i'm not gonna take that away from it

1335
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:45,440
it's hard work uh but i do enjoy seeing

1336
00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:47,680
the the fruit of your labor come to

1337
00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:50,000
fruition is is a really good thing good

1338
00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:51,520
time i should say

1339
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:52,800
um

1340
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:54,240
but i can definitely relate to that idea

1341
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:55,839
of like you said you had a day to just

1342
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:58,800
relax and go fishing and i mean come on

1343
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,480
the man offered you his own fishing

1344
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:02,640
poles you couldn't turn them down yeah

1345
00:49:07,109 --> 00:49:04,880
and turn them down right

1346
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:07,119
there was no way

1347
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:09,839
that that's a major insult

1348
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:11,280
that's true

1349
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:14,240
um but as you guys were sitting there

1350
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,720
you mentioned your you know your mindset

1351
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:18,400
sitting looking watching wondering how

1352
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:20,640
in the world these giant you know ships

1353
00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:22,400
made of steel managed to stay afloat

1354
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:23,680
like this

1355
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:24,640
um

1356
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:26,880
and then excuse me did the light and

1357
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,880
i'll try to share a picture guys again i

1358
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,880
apologize for whatever reason

1359
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:32,960
it's uh it's got to be user error but

1360
00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:34,160
i'll try to share it here there's a

1361
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:36,640
there's a shoreline picture kind of um

1362
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:37,599
and

1363
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:40,079
is this the actual location that is

1364
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:42,000
right here

1365
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:44,880
it is the little pier that you see kind

1366
00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:45,839
of

1367
00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:48,559
to the back is where we were fishing

1368
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:51,359
okay the bridge itself back there

1369
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:52,319
right

1370
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:53,920
okay

1371
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:54,880
so

1372
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:57,040
you know anyhow we was kind of fishing

1373
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,559
there like i say it was the old

1374
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:00,240
abandoned shipyard

1375
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:02,800
it's changed so much since then

1376
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:04,880
yeah i can imagine

1377
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:07,520
very much so uh so as you're seeing this

1378
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:08,400
though

1379
00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:10,240
and you're you're

1380
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:11,760
the light did it start from out there

1381
00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:13,280
did you think it was a kind of a boat at

1382
00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:15,280
first or when the light came in i guess

1383
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:16,400
to kind of get a picture of my mind

1384
00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:18,400
you're looking at the water did it come

1385
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:20,800
from the water itself

1386
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:22,480
come from behind us

1387
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:25,119
okay so we have reflected that across

1388
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:26,640
the water

1389
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:27,920
oh okay which is why when you turn

1390
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:29,280
around the light was just blinding at

1391
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:30,720
you like right

1392
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:33,040
now when they came to you

1393
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:34,480
do you do you feel like there was a

1394
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:35,920
moment when they first appeared that you

1395
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:39,359
were still able to freely move

1396
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:41,920
no i don't oh

1397
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:43,040
because

1398
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:46,559
i was so scared when this was going on

1399
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:47,520
i

1400
00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:53,440
of us there was water so there was

1401
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:55,520
nowhere we can go then that was behind

1402
00:50:59,109 --> 00:50:56,880
us

1403
00:51:01,349 --> 00:50:59,119
so you know it wasn't too many places to

1404
00:51:02,870 --> 00:51:01,359
run to

1405
00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:02,880
and like you said they kind of it was

1406
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:04,319
pretty quickly that they were upon you

1407
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:08,710
yeah before you even knew what happened

1408
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:10,400
i was there

1409
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:12,079
and i and i've heard different accounts

1410
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:13,440
you know either from other people

1411
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:14,880
sharing your story or even yourself

1412
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:17,119
you've said that it almost was as if

1413
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:18,880
they floated though right they didn't

1414
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:20,960
physically walk on the ground they did

1415
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:23,040
float across the top of that marsh trash

1416
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:26,240
that's why they could get to us so fast

1417
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:27,839
it's um

1418
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:29,680
if you looked out they looked like they

1419
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,720
was about two three foot off the ground

1420
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:34,880
or above that grass a little bit and

1421
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:37,280
they just scooted right on kind of like

1422
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:39,200
putting on a jet pack and moving over

1423
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:40,720
there

1424
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:42,880
and so immediately from this happening

1425
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:46,160
and the one comes up to you uh and

1426
00:51:49,349 --> 00:51:48,240
did you feel this injection or whatever

1427
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:49,359
might have whatever they might have put

1428
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:50,800
into your shoulder

1429
00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:53,839
i did and like i say it was examined

1430
00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:56,079
later on at the hospital

1431
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:58,480
and the blood working i was done

1432
00:52:02,069 --> 00:52:00,240
and i still

1433
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:02,079
had to mark a

1434
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:04,720
you know pretty good little bar

1435
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:07,040
and it kind of ripped my arm when they

1436
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:09,760
gave me this injection

1437
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:11,599
so this wasn't a real nice little poke

1438
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:13,760
this was kind of aggressive

1439
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:15,920
it wasn't kind of like getting a real

1440
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:18,240
easy little shot

1441
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:20,800
very nice and and so as now i'm assuming

1442
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:22,640
they also gave it to you to your uh to

1443
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:24,480
chuck that was there with you uh as well

1444
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:25,680
correct

1445
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:28,800
sir what's that oh yeah oh

1446
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:30,800
charlie got the same thing

1447
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:33,280
yeah you know our experience

1448
00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:35,200
as far as i you know i never really

1449
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:37,599
talked to charlie about this

1450
00:52:41,589 --> 00:52:39,280
we never sat down and talked to each

1451
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:41,599
other about it charlie went on and wrote

1452
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:44,079
his own book before

1453
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:46,319
and made all these conferences and news

1454
00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:48,160
media you know

1455
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:50,319
and um

1456
00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:53,040
we never really talked he called me up

1457
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:55,680
this was in the

1458
00:53:01,510 --> 00:52:59,040
80s i'm in uh 78

1459
00:53:03,190 --> 00:53:01,520
and said i'm gonna write a book

1460
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:03,200
he said uh

1461
00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:06,559
i'm gonna give you three percent of it

1462
00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:08,480
and i'm gonna sell it

1463
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:10,000
charlie i don't want none of your damn

1464
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:13,040
book i want nothing to do with it

1465
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:15,520
so anyhow charlie went and he did his

1466
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:17,520
own book

1467
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:21,200
and put it out there you know

1468
00:53:26,549 --> 00:53:24,079
that's i never read his book up until

1469
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:26,559
here lately and i got bored laying

1470
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,040
around the house with this kovic and

1471
00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:31,440
this cancer and stuff yeah and philip

1472
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:33,359
mano had sent me

1473
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:35,839
one of his books and i said you know

1474
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:38,079
i might want to read this now

1475
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:40,960
right and i picked it up read it and

1476
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:43,040
that's that's the first time i had heard

1477
00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:45,520
anything on his story

1478
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:46,720
now

1479
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:49,760
questions in relation to that but it

1480
00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:51,440
keep going back just really quick to to

1481
00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:52,720
the experiences when you get taken out

1482
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:55,119
of the craft and you mentioned it looked

1483
00:53:58,309 --> 00:53:56,400
kind of like a deck of cards that came

1484
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:58,319
down and started scanning you did you

1485
00:54:00,630 --> 00:53:59,359
ever have any thoughts that you think

1486
00:54:01,510 --> 00:54:00,640
that was just a general scan do you

1487
00:54:02,950 --> 00:54:01,520
think there was something they were

1488
00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:02,960
specifically looking for like a part of

1489
00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:04,880
the body that it focused on or anything

1490
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:06,319
i don't know

1491
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:07,520
oh

1492
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:09,599
i think they were studying us i believe

1493
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:12,079
it was more like a physical

1494
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:13,680
because who's to say

1495
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:16,000
in that pope after the shot that they

1496
00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:18,400
didn't get blood too i don't know who's

1497
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:20,079
that is true

1498
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:22,079
who's saying they didn't collect a dna

1499
00:54:25,589 --> 00:54:23,680
sample

1500
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:25,599
and now speaking of that though now you

1501
00:54:29,829 --> 00:54:28,079
you said she she looked pretty much

1502
00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:29,839
exactly like

1503
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:31,839
everybody else there that you know was

1504
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:33,200
living in the area this she wouldn't

1505
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:34,480
have noticed outside of you said it was

1506
00:54:39,589 --> 00:54:36,640
her i believe her middle fingers right

1507
00:54:41,589 --> 00:54:39,599
right outside of her fingers you know be

1508
00:54:42,549 --> 00:54:41,599
two middle fingers being longer than the

1509
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,559
others

1510
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:44,480
like i said if i'd been in a bar and had

1511
00:54:49,109 --> 00:54:46,559
a drink or two i would ask her out on a

1512
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:49,119
date that's how normal looking she

1513
00:54:53,109 --> 00:54:50,160
looked

1514
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:55,750
we did have an artist to do a sketch of

1515
00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:57,839
her they're doing it right now

1516
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:59,359
very nice oh

1517
00:55:02,710 --> 00:55:00,559
it's

1518
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:02,720
closest sketch i've ever seen to what

1519
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,880
she looked like

1520
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:07,040
and

1521
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:08,559
oh i was just going to say one one of

1522
00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:10,559
our listeners sun saver from nhh welcome

1523
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:11,520
brother by the way thank you for being

1524
00:55:14,069 --> 00:55:13,119
here in the chat tonight uh and he is

1525
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:14,079
correct and asked it but he wants to

1526
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:15,520
know he said did you hear them in your

1527
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:17,520
head or do they communicate at all any

1528
00:55:22,549 --> 00:55:18,880
of the beings did they ever communicate

1529
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:22,559
with you yeah she did you know she

1530
00:55:27,990 --> 00:55:25,200
she communicated tell i i'm gonna call

1531
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:28,000
it telepathically and i noticed charlie

1532
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:30,720
said the same thing in his book when i

1533
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:33,440
just read it but she communicated we

1534
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:35,760
don't mean you no harm

1535
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:38,079
and i communicated back

1536
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:40,000
with [\h__\h]

1537
00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:42,000
you done done the harm

1538
00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:44,240
oh that's

1539
00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:46,000
yeah

1540
00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:49,119
oh no i just i i first of all i love the

1541
00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:52,000
honesty on that

1542
00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:53,280
sometimes

1543
00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:56,400
and they keep it all together and that's

1544
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:57,680
fine whatever might have happened but

1545
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:58,640
every once in a while i hear their

1546
00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:01,200
stories and i'm like they're so calm

1547
00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:02,799
there's no way i would handle this like

1548
00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:08,390
i love that i'm sorry

1549
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:09,920
oh man

1550
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:11,440
yeah you know but you mentioned there

1551
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:13,440
was a little bit of blood enough so that

1552
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:15,040
you needed to change your clothes so i

1553
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,960
mean i you mentioned something you think

1554
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:18,559
should i get to your nasal passage or

1555
00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:20,000
something perhaps you're not even sure

1556
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:20,960
yeah

1557
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:24,400
i feel like she was trying to get a uh

1558
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:27,440
something in my nasal passage now and i

1559
00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:30,480
feel like she might have and

1560
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:32,319
uh

1561
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:35,040
but i've never you know had it checked

1562
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:36,319
uh

1563
00:56:40,789 --> 00:56:38,799
but it was it was blood all over matter

1564
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:40,799
of fact it looked like

1565
00:56:44,549 --> 00:56:42,559
the sheriff even told me go home get

1566
00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:44,559
them clothes off like i've been beat to

1567
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:46,799
death

1568
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:48,880
which is what you did again going home

1569
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:51,040
and and you mentioned now speaking of

1570
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:52,880
that let's hit on that for a second well

1571
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:54,640
first of all you you guys come back off

1572
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:56,720
the craft um if we can call it that did

1573
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:58,400
you watch it take off or what was the

1574
00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:00,240
process there how did the exit process

1575
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:03,520
take place well we seen it take off

1576
00:57:07,829 --> 00:57:05,920
i heard something like a zip

1577
00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:07,839
okay and it picked up off the ground

1578
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:11,200
just shot up in the sky and disappeared

1579
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:12,960
no no inertia no displacement of the

1580
00:57:17,109 --> 00:57:15,040
ground or nothing crazy like that no

1581
00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:17,119
kind of booms and the strange thing

1582
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:19,359
about that huh

1583
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:22,160
strange thing about that it was witness

1584
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:26,960
taken off by other people excuse me uh

1585
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:29,440
this lady and her husband

1586
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:31,359
said it take out they was across the

1587
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:33,760
river this crane operator that was

1588
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:36,240
working on another ship yard

1589
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:40,319
he seen it take off and this uh maria

1590
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:42,480
blair she actually seen us being

1591
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:44,720
abducted and i mean this is all

1592
00:57:49,589 --> 00:57:47,599
incredible people and that night it just

1593
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:49,599
happened

1594
00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:51,200
when i was in the sheriff's department

1595
00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:53,119
before anybody knew about it before the

1596
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:56,000
media got it they had 50 phone calls

1597
00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:59,280
about seeing something strange out there

1598
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:00,319
so

1599
00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:03,760
you know it's the best documented case

1600
00:58:08,789 --> 00:58:06,319
the united states coast guard

1601
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:08,799
even documented uh

1602
00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:11,440
they don't call them ufos they call them

1603
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:13,599
something else when they go underwater

1604
00:58:19,030 --> 00:58:15,119
oh yeah yeah

1605
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:19,040
but they even documented cm1

1606
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:22,640
just down the river from there

1607
00:58:25,990 --> 00:58:24,480
so you know what's so interesting about

1608
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:26,000
this when you when you first come across

1609
00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:28,000
the case and you first hear it mentioned

1610
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:30,160
um it's kind of set up now it's getting

1611
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:31,440
better but it seems like initially it

1612
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:33,839
was kind of portrayed before because

1613
00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:35,200
correct me if i'm wrong you you first

1614
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:36,559
came out

1615
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:38,400
to publicly speak about this what year

1616
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:40,079
was that at roughly that was about not

1617
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:41,760
even 10 10 years

1618
00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:47,990
thank you i do stand corrected that is

1619
00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:48,799
right because i remember one of the

1620
00:58:52,230 --> 00:58:50,160
first times i ever heard about it uh and

1621
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:52,240
by the way sunsaver said that is usos

1622
00:58:55,589 --> 00:58:54,400
and that's right uh under or isn't it

1623
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:55,599
like uh

1624
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,960
under

1625
00:58:59,829 --> 00:58:58,720
like submerged

1626
00:59:02,829 --> 00:58:59,839
something yeah i can't remember the

1627
00:59:03,910 --> 00:59:02,839
acronym but i think it is usos

1628
00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:03,920
um but

1629
00:59:06,789 --> 00:59:05,520
joe and ben were the first time i heard

1630
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:06,799
that story ever mentioned was on the

1631
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,680
show

1632
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:09,040
and they were saying how it's funny that

1633
00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:10,400
everybody was telling the story at first

1634
00:59:13,270 --> 00:59:11,680
was kind of portraying us like well here

1635
00:59:14,470 --> 00:59:13,280
we got these two southern boys right

1636
00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:14,480
they're probably drinking and they're

1637
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:16,480
off you know fishing and then they

1638
00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:18,160
happen to have this experience but from

1639
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:19,760
talking with you

1640
00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:21,200
this isn't something where just the two

1641
00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:22,559
of you said this took place we're not

1642
00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:24,079
talking about

1643
00:59:27,349 --> 00:59:25,839
i mean one can even say you know i know

1644
00:59:28,309 --> 00:59:27,359
a lot of people hold to travis walton is

1645
00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:28,319
like the

1646
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:30,480
one of the epitome top five cases if not

1647
00:59:35,670 --> 00:59:32,720
number one or top three

1648
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:35,680
of documentation on it but if you've had

1649
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:38,960
50 including the the coast guard itself

1650
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:41,440
i mean that gets to be uh unidentified

1651
00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:45,520
sub summer coast guard has it documented

1652
00:59:49,109 --> 00:59:46,559
to that they

1653
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:49,119
you know had witnessed all this

1654
00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:50,640
now uh

1655
00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:53,119
and we've also had

1656
00:59:56,230 --> 00:59:55,280
polygraph tests voice

1657
00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:56,240
tests

1658
01:00:01,190 --> 00:59:59,200
been interrogated i mean we've had any

1659
01:00:03,430 --> 01:00:01,200
kind of test known to man

1660
01:00:07,349 --> 01:00:03,440
in past them

1661
01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:07,359
very nice plus a test of time

1662
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:09,119
that's true that is that is probably the

1663
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:11,760
most important one right there right um

1664
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:13,359
why brings up a great question

1665
01:00:17,910 --> 01:00:15,599
continuing back to you guys injury or

1666
01:00:20,230 --> 01:00:17,920
exiting the craft i should say which is

1667
01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:20,240
he wanted to know did you notice at all

1668
01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:22,559
uh any odors or smells while you were on

1669
01:00:27,990 --> 01:00:24,880
the craft itself or when you report the

1670
01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:28,000
craft i did not

1671
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:28,960
okay

1672
01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:30,960
very no and i i i love you brought this

1673
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:32,160
up because i didn't even get into that

1674
01:00:35,589 --> 01:00:34,240
did you was it very just kind of what

1675
01:00:37,109 --> 01:00:35,599
was the description what did you i guess

1676
01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:37,119
i'll just ask you what did you see on

1677
01:00:40,470 --> 01:00:39,280
the inside if anything

1678
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:40,480
oh

1679
01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:42,720
just the light coming out of the walls

1680
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:45,440
you know pretty much had my attention

1681
01:00:49,109 --> 01:00:48,000
and then uh you know the examination

1682
01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:49,119
room

1683
01:00:53,829 --> 01:00:50,799
and that's that's about it i can't

1684
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:53,839
remember much more than that

1685
01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:55,359
very nice okay

1686
01:00:59,109 --> 01:00:57,680
and so you guys exit now did and he

1687
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:59,119
mentioned obviously you already hit on

1688
01:01:02,230 --> 01:01:00,880
this which is that he mentioned we got

1689
01:01:04,230 --> 01:01:02,240
to tell somebody you're like listen i'm

1690
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:04,240
not let's not i'm not ready to do this

1691
01:01:07,190 --> 01:01:05,440
you know i'm getting married here soon i

1692
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:07,200
don't need this to be a thing

1693
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:11,040
um but as you guys went back excuse me

1694
01:01:14,069 --> 01:01:12,880
uh after they do the sobriety testing

1695
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:14,079
and you're you're there at the police

1696
01:01:17,910 --> 01:01:15,760
station giving your report

1697
01:01:19,270 --> 01:01:17,920
how much did you and him hawk once they

1698
01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:19,280
took their initial report did you guys

1699
01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:20,880
kind of have any dialogue with each

1700
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:23,440
other to confirm hey did we see did you

1701
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:25,200
know what happened no we really didn't

1702
01:01:30,150 --> 01:01:27,359
we didn't have time to talk

1703
01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:30,160
everything was in a frenzy right then

1704
01:01:35,030 --> 01:01:32,480
and the only people we talked to then

1705
01:01:36,870 --> 01:01:35,040
was people of authority

1706
01:01:38,630 --> 01:01:36,880
and

1707
01:01:40,549 --> 01:01:38,640
actually after this happened i never

1708
01:01:44,069 --> 01:01:40,559
really talked to charlie that much more

1709
01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:44,079
than what we did on the pier right then

1710
01:01:47,349 --> 01:01:45,520
when it happened

1711
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:47,359
you know that reminds me a lot of uh

1712
01:01:51,430 --> 01:01:48,960
terry lovelace

1713
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:51,440
uh had the same thing with his with his

1714
01:01:55,029 --> 01:01:53,280
buddy that he had an experience with is

1715
01:01:56,950 --> 01:01:55,039
that that they seem to just i mean this

1716
01:01:57,910 --> 01:01:56,960
is a guy he worked side by side with for

1717
01:01:59,990 --> 01:01:57,920
years

1718
01:02:01,029 --> 01:02:00,000
and they just drifted apart you know

1719
01:02:02,470 --> 01:02:01,039
after that experience he said it was

1720
01:02:04,150 --> 01:02:02,480
almost like he

1721
01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:04,160
almost as if there was a blocker where

1722
01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:06,960
he didn't want to be by him anymore did

1723
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:09,440
you find anything like that

1724
01:02:13,109 --> 01:02:10,960
well

1725
01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:13,119
yeah i didn't want to be around what we

1726
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:15,200
had to say anymore

1727
01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:16,720
and uh

1728
01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:18,079
up until

1729
01:02:25,270 --> 01:02:22,640
i would communicate now

1730
01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:25,280
and like i say he was old family friend

1731
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:27,280
me and his children was good friends

1732
01:02:31,270 --> 01:02:28,799
coming up

1733
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:31,280
but uh after that we really didn't talk

1734
01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:33,119
that much

1735
01:02:37,990 --> 01:02:35,200
hmm

1736
01:02:41,109 --> 01:02:38,000
and with when you went home if you don't

1737
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:41,119
mind my asking um

1738
01:02:43,990 --> 01:02:42,720
what happened too and we're going to

1739
01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:44,000
take a break here in just a minute here

1740
01:02:47,190 --> 01:02:45,440
guys by the way uh we'll have a quick

1741
01:02:49,270 --> 01:02:47,200
little break and then uh we might even

1742
01:02:50,230 --> 01:02:49,280
have maybe joe and ben one of them might

1743
01:02:52,710 --> 01:02:50,240
be hopping on here we'll see what

1744
01:02:53,829 --> 01:02:52,720
happens uh but really quick before we

1745
01:02:55,589 --> 01:02:53,839
take that break

1746
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:55,599
you went home and you mentioned how you

1747
01:02:58,470 --> 01:02:56,880
showered was the reason you picked a

1748
01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:58,480
bleach because i mean bleaches i mean

1749
01:03:02,630 --> 01:03:00,319
that's a pretty powerful

1750
01:03:05,829 --> 01:03:02,640
cleaner right there well

1751
01:03:06,870 --> 01:03:05,839
i've just watched this apollo mission

1752
01:03:08,390 --> 01:03:06,880
come back

1753
01:03:09,910 --> 01:03:08,400
and they quarantined them from their

1754
01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:09,920
families to keep them for getting the

1755
01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:11,440
disease

1756
01:03:15,829 --> 01:03:14,559
or for spreading something for two weeks

1757
01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:15,839
they couldn't even see their own

1758
01:03:18,710 --> 01:03:16,880
families

1759
01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:18,720
and this bleach was sitting in there on

1760
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:21,760
the back of the uh

1761
01:03:24,230 --> 01:03:22,880
toilet

1762
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:24,240
or by it

1763
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:26,640
and i just happened to see it and when i

1764
01:03:30,309 --> 01:03:28,480
was coming up i knew my mother would

1765
01:03:32,950 --> 01:03:30,319
baby in bleach and they would care about

1766
01:03:35,349 --> 01:03:32,960
anything from poison ivy on down

1767
01:03:37,109 --> 01:03:35,359
and i thought well you know just in case

1768
01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:37,119
i'm gonna pour this on me and wash it

1769
01:03:39,670 --> 01:03:38,400
off

1770
01:03:42,230 --> 01:03:39,680
i got it

1771
01:03:43,510 --> 01:03:42,240
that's where the bleach came from

1772
01:03:44,390 --> 01:03:43,520
very nice i just wondered if there was

1773
01:03:46,069 --> 01:03:44,400
something because i just thought man

1774
01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:46,079
such an extreme kind of cleaner right

1775
01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:47,599
there black chick thank you very much by

1776
01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:49,119
the way for that super chat and support

1777
01:03:53,029 --> 01:03:51,599
in the show here um

1778
01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:53,039
so guys what we're going to do is we're

1779
01:03:55,990 --> 01:03:54,240
going to take about a five minute break

1780
01:03:57,270 --> 01:03:56,000
here um go use the bathroom get another

1781
01:03:59,029 --> 01:03:57,280
cup of coffee cup and see you're going

1782
01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:59,039
to do i'm going to take you backstage

1783
01:04:02,150 --> 01:04:00,160
for just a second i'm going to put some

1784
01:04:04,230 --> 01:04:02,160
music on and then give it about maybe

1785
01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:04,240
five minutes or so about 5 10 or excuse

1786
01:04:07,349 --> 01:04:06,160
me 10 00 10 10 here and we'll come on

1787
01:04:09,109 --> 01:04:07,359
back okay

1788
01:04:11,109 --> 01:04:09,119
that'll work all right i'll take you

1789
01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:11,119
back just second here

1790
01:04:15,190 --> 01:04:12,720
all right guys i'm gonna put up some

1791
01:04:16,950 --> 01:04:15,200
music and get you guys set up man uh

1792
01:04:18,789 --> 01:04:16,960
let's see there was a question i seen

1793
01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:18,799
coming up here a second ago and i'll try

1794
01:04:22,069 --> 01:04:19,920
to have it

1795
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:22,079
i'll stay with it that way

1796
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:24,640
we don't lose it when we come back

1797
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:27,119
um with adam ambrose okay so adam when

1798
01:04:29,750 --> 01:04:28,240
we come back i'm gonna keep this tag

1799
01:04:31,029 --> 01:04:29,760
down here uh and i will catch up from

1800
01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:31,039
any other comments you guys have going

1801
01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:32,400
along try to start putting them if we're

1802
01:04:35,510 --> 01:04:33,760
gonna get into questions here which i'd

1803
01:04:37,589 --> 01:04:35,520
love to start doing try to put them in

1804
01:04:39,029 --> 01:04:37,599
caps if i miss them please put them back

1805
01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:39,039
in because there's a chance that could

1806
01:04:42,950 --> 01:04:41,520
happen um that's about it so let me get

1807
01:04:45,029 --> 01:04:42,960
some music going for you guys and we'll

1808
01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:45,039
be back here in a couple

1809
01:04:48,150 --> 01:04:46,960
about five minutes or so five minutes

1810
01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:48,160
like i have a song that goes five

1811
01:04:50,789 --> 01:04:49,440
minutes we gotta make something up

1812
01:04:51,750 --> 01:04:50,799
george ben we're gonna work on that

1813
01:04:52,630 --> 01:04:51,760
we'll get something all squared away

1814
01:04:54,740 --> 01:04:52,640
that way

1815
01:05:31,170 --> 01:04:54,750
let's put this one up here we go

1816
01:06:21,990 --> 01:05:43,190
[Music]

1817
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:38,400
so

1818
01:06:38,410 --> 01:07:22,309
[Music]

1819
01:07:26,230 --> 01:07:24,230
all righty guys i'm gonna hop back on

1820
01:07:28,710 --> 01:07:26,240
here for a second we'll let kelvin get

1821
01:07:31,029 --> 01:07:28,720
all situated over there i want to thank

1822
01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:31,039
by the way spooky morales for that

1823
01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:32,480
awesome super chat thank you so much

1824
01:07:37,589 --> 01:07:35,520
brother um for doing that and we're very

1825
01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:37,599
excited to have calvin here the 90s

1826
01:07:40,630 --> 01:07:39,200
welcome back by the way kelvin thank you

1827
01:07:42,069 --> 01:07:40,640
so much there's so much love in the chat

1828
01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:42,079
for you everybody's extremely happy to

1829
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:44,240
see you wishing you well

1830
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:46,960
and and mostly excited just to hear it

1831
01:07:50,950 --> 01:07:48,880
straight from you right i mean the book

1832
01:07:52,230 --> 01:07:50,960
is is great but getting to hear it from

1833
01:07:54,230 --> 01:07:52,240
the horse's mouth as it were there's

1834
01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:54,240
nothing like that you know you know i

1835
01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:57,200
enjoyed uh the first event we had they

1836
01:08:01,510 --> 01:07:59,440
had a little

1837
01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:01,520
invited me up to a little book signing

1838
01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:03,599
here in passpargoula the other day it

1839
01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:05,760
was on the 15th instead of the 11th

1840
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:06,720
though

1841
01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:08,880
okay and it was so nice to be able to

1842
01:08:11,430 --> 01:08:10,559
get out walk around and visit with

1843
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:11,440
people

1844
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:13,440
and to get up on stage and tell my

1845
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:15,920
little story

1846
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:19,440
but i i enjoy speaking

1847
01:08:23,829 --> 01:08:21,600
we enjoy listening you gotta you have a

1848
01:08:25,510 --> 01:08:23,839
fantastic voice for it everyone said

1849
01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:25,520
they feel safe and at home just like

1850
01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:27,279
their their papa or their grandpa's

1851
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:29,199
telling them a story so

1852
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:30,000
yeah

1853
01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:30,880
okay

1854
01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:33,520
when i did the book i got a rev just

1855
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:36,000
heard some of this last week that it

1856
01:08:40,470 --> 01:08:37,600
sounds like you're sitting in the living

1857
01:08:42,149 --> 01:08:40,480
room telling the story and talking to us

1858
01:08:44,309 --> 01:08:42,159
and that's the way i wanted to i didn't

1859
01:08:45,189 --> 01:08:44,319
want it like a book

1860
01:08:47,590 --> 01:08:45,199
you know

1861
01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:47,600
like a science fiction book where you go

1862
01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:49,600
in and everything has to be spelled

1863
01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:51,359
right now

1864
01:08:57,590 --> 01:08:54,480
that's not me i'm uh

1865
01:09:00,390 --> 01:08:57,600
i'm just a redneck from mississippi

1866
01:09:03,030 --> 01:09:00,400
my language might not be proper or

1867
01:09:05,269 --> 01:09:03,040
i might not say the right thing sometime

1868
01:09:07,749 --> 01:09:05,279
but it don't matter that's me

1869
01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:07,759
and that's the way i wanted things

1870
01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:10,239
well we love it uh let's see really

1871
01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:11,839
quick i want to bring up the first

1872
01:09:16,550 --> 01:09:14,480
question here um moving along with this

1873
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:16,560
a little bit burp without skipping since

1874
01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:18,480
it kind of matters adam ambrose wants to

1875
01:09:22,709 --> 01:09:20,960
ask you calvin are you glad that you had

1876
01:09:24,550 --> 01:09:22,719
this experience or do you wish that it

1877
01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:24,560
hadn't happened

1878
01:09:31,749 --> 01:09:28,480
because of

1879
01:09:34,229 --> 01:09:31,759
my ambition in life was to get married

1880
01:09:35,189 --> 01:09:34,239
have children have grandchildren buy a

1881
01:09:36,789 --> 01:09:35,199
house

1882
01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:36,799
retiring fish

1883
01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:38,880
and all that just kind of turned upside

1884
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:41,359
down on me

1885
01:09:45,189 --> 01:09:42,960
yeah yeah i can imagine i mean like you

1886
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:45,199
said this really rolled into every other

1887
01:09:48,630 --> 01:09:47,440
aspect of your life i can imagine yeah

1888
01:09:50,309 --> 01:09:48,640
not to mention

1889
01:09:51,669 --> 01:09:50,319
holding it you know from your wife like

1890
01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:51,679
i said they know right i've been with my

1891
01:09:57,189 --> 01:09:54,960
wife oh 10 years she knows me so you

1892
01:09:58,229 --> 01:09:57,199
know they know it's something

1893
01:10:01,270 --> 01:09:58,239
one of them

1894
01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:01,280
and you know after when the book came

1895
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:03,920
out that course they had questions like

1896
01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:06,480
anybody else when i gave a book they

1897
01:10:11,110 --> 01:10:08,159
would come to me my daughter my

1898
01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:11,120
son-in-law my wife and all

1899
01:10:16,310 --> 01:10:12,960
and my family

1900
01:10:17,990 --> 01:10:16,320
you know my family my brother my mother

1901
01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:18,000
and my father

1902
01:10:21,189 --> 01:10:19,520
they never uh

1903
01:10:23,350 --> 01:10:21,199
they never asked me nothing about it

1904
01:10:25,030 --> 01:10:23,360
when this happened

1905
01:10:29,270 --> 01:10:25,040
they really

1906
01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:29,280
uh there's a screenplay being done

1907
01:10:33,270 --> 01:10:32,239
for a movie and a documentary and show

1908
01:10:35,510 --> 01:10:33,280
and stuff

1909
01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:35,520
and it's pretty much got it in there

1910
01:10:39,669 --> 01:10:38,719
they they never asked me about it

1911
01:10:41,750 --> 01:10:39,679
so

1912
01:10:43,590 --> 01:10:41,760
and you know speaking on that i would

1913
01:10:47,910 --> 01:10:43,600
love to ask this question i want to word

1914
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:49,750
throughout this experience what's so

1915
01:10:54,070 --> 01:10:52,320
intriguing about yours is that

1916
01:10:56,229 --> 01:10:54,080
and correct me if i'm wrong you

1917
01:10:57,910 --> 01:10:56,239
remembered everything that had happened

1918
01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:57,920
the minute you were off this craft it

1919
01:11:01,590 --> 01:10:59,679
wasn't a sense of

1920
01:11:03,590 --> 01:11:01,600
things coming back to you you you knew

1921
01:11:05,990 --> 01:11:03,600
in that moment when it happened correct

1922
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:06,000
no doubt about it i mean that you go

1923
01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:07,679
through this kind of experience you

1924
01:11:11,110 --> 01:11:09,120
don't forget it

1925
01:11:13,750 --> 01:11:11,120
right and uh

1926
01:11:15,590 --> 01:11:13,760
you know i remember details that a lot

1927
01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:15,600
of people don't although i have been

1928
01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:18,000
hypnotized two or three times kathleen

1929
01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:19,280
martin or

1930
01:11:23,270 --> 01:11:21,760
dr harter or

1931
01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:23,280
dr heineck

1932
01:11:27,430 --> 01:11:25,440
and all them but you know still i

1933
01:11:29,189 --> 01:11:27,440
remember everything going on i guess

1934
01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:29,199
they was just trying to pull out little

1935
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:30,880
fine details

1936
01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:36,000
it is is what it is

1937
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:37,840
do you mind me asking about how long

1938
01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:39,120
that say start to finish from the time

1939
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:40,800
this light appears the time that they're

1940
01:11:44,149 --> 01:11:42,560
dropping off and taking off like rough

1941
01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:44,159
timeline dude do you remember is it a

1942
01:11:50,630 --> 01:11:47,840
little blurry no ah it was approximately

1943
01:11:52,830 --> 01:11:50,640
45 minutes

1944
01:11:55,189 --> 01:11:52,840
inside the craft

1945
01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:55,199
wow you know and that's fascinating

1946
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:57,120
because you have the the people that are

1947
01:11:59,990 --> 01:11:58,640
seeing this going on so when they were

1948
01:12:02,390 --> 01:12:00,000
calling

1949
01:12:03,990 --> 01:12:02,400
man it might ask you and i apologize for

1950
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:04,000
kind of going back to it again when you

1951
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:05,760
were taken on the craft was there an

1952
01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:07,440
actual ramp you walked into or what was

1953
01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:09,920
the process of entering this this craft

1954
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:12,960
no like i said they carry it as a board

1955
01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:15,520
so if there was a ramp you know they're

1956
01:12:20,709 --> 01:12:18,000
the ones that had to walk of it

1957
01:12:24,390 --> 01:12:20,719
and i've often wondered of course i was

1958
01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:24,400
small back in i weighed 130 pounds

1959
01:12:28,390 --> 01:12:26,880
and but i was wondering why it didn't

1960
01:12:30,709 --> 01:12:28,400
break her arm or something the way they

1961
01:12:33,030 --> 01:12:30,719
had us picked up

1962
01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:33,040
so that's questions i can't answer i

1963
01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:35,600
still got a lot of questions myself

1964
01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:38,719
yeah yeah i can imagine uh

1965
01:12:42,550 --> 01:12:40,560
we have another one right here

1966
01:12:43,910 --> 01:12:42,560
from sunsaver that wants to ask you says

1967
01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:43,920
what are calvin's thoughts about

1968
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:45,760
possible motives or agendas of the

1969
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:49,120
visitors any idea why they are here why

1970
01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:51,520
the interest in humans on this planet

1971
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:53,199
particularly

1972
01:12:57,830 --> 01:12:55,760
i have no idea it's kind of like the

1973
01:12:59,669 --> 01:12:57,840
deal well why don't we want to go back

1974
01:13:02,310 --> 01:12:59,679
and uh

1975
01:13:04,709 --> 01:13:02,320
explore things that happened before we

1976
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:04,719
was even here like the mine and stuff

1977
01:13:08,790 --> 01:13:07,199
like that or why why don't we want to go

1978
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:08,800
to the moon

1979
01:13:14,550 --> 01:13:12,000
or other planets and things you know

1980
01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:14,560
curiosity i guess

1981
01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:15,920
very true

1982
01:13:23,430 --> 01:13:22,080
when uh when this took place i kind of

1983
01:13:24,390 --> 01:13:23,440
asked you this too

1984
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:24,400
because obviously you had this

1985
01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:26,320
experience but it sounds like and i

1986
01:13:28,950 --> 01:13:27,360
could be wrong but it sounds like once

1987
01:13:31,750 --> 01:13:28,960
you went home you got married you kind

1988
01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:31,760
of got out with life uh it doesn't sound

1989
01:13:34,229 --> 01:13:33,040
like you ever tried to you didn't reach

1990
01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:34,239
out for any other interviews you didn't

1991
01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:35,120
do anything obviously you didn't even

1992
01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:36,800
share with your own wife

1993
01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:39,120
um but did you did you ever keep up with

1994
01:13:41,750 --> 01:13:40,320
it like in the back a little bit do you

1995
01:13:44,070 --> 01:13:41,760
ever get a magazine here and there just

1996
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:44,080
to see has anybody else seen anything

1997
01:13:46,790 --> 01:13:44,880
well

1998
01:13:48,550 --> 01:13:46,800
when this happened you know of course it

1999
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:48,560
come out in magazines there was a

2000
01:13:52,870 --> 01:13:51,280
popular science and things like that

2001
01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:52,880
and about

2002
01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:55,520
happened to be uh in a barber shop or

2003
01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:56,880
something where they had one laying

2004
01:13:59,110 --> 01:13:58,000
around

2005
01:14:01,270 --> 01:13:59,120
of course

2006
01:14:04,149 --> 01:14:01,280
i'd pick it up you know look at it just

2007
01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:04,159
out of curiosity to see what they said

2008
01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:08,000
right but uh other than that now

2009
01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:10,320
very interesting uh by the way uh

2010
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:12,640
smoking joe says he wants to again thank

2011
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:14,560
you for coming forward after all these

2012
01:14:19,189 --> 01:14:17,679
years we truly we appreciate you and i i

2013
01:14:20,950 --> 01:14:19,199
definitely agree with that sentiment

2014
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:20,960
there because for so many other people

2015
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:22,560
too do you do you think

2016
01:14:26,310 --> 01:14:24,480
in your just how you dealt with it do

2017
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:26,320
you believe there's others that probably

2018
01:14:29,669 --> 01:14:27,520
have had these experiences that have

2019
01:14:30,709 --> 01:14:29,679
just kept it to themselves out after all

2020
01:14:33,430 --> 01:14:30,719
these years

2021
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:33,440
i really do you know this is something i

2022
01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:35,440
don't think i was just

2023
01:14:40,149 --> 01:14:37,920
isolated on you know i believe there's a

2024
01:14:42,070 --> 01:14:40,159
lot of people that had experience and it

2025
01:14:43,189 --> 01:14:42,080
might even be some that don't remember

2026
01:14:45,270 --> 01:14:43,199
them

2027
01:14:47,189 --> 01:14:45,280
and uh

2028
01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:47,199
like i say i believe all that's kind of

2029
01:14:51,189 --> 01:14:48,719
experimental

2030
01:14:56,550 --> 01:14:54,229
a dna thing or something maybe

2031
01:14:59,189 --> 01:14:56,560
who knows i have a lot of questions

2032
01:15:00,950 --> 01:14:59,199
myself well that's okay right that's i

2033
01:15:02,709 --> 01:15:00,960
mean that's why we we all got those

2034
01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:02,719
questions i suppose and and i don't

2035
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:04,800
think any of us any one person has an

2036
01:15:08,070 --> 01:15:06,480
answer that's the beauty of kind of if

2037
01:15:10,390 --> 01:15:08,080
there's any good plus things that you

2038
01:15:11,910 --> 01:15:10,400
know plus side the internet is that it's

2039
01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:11,920
helped the collective consciousness be

2040
01:15:15,350 --> 01:15:13,040
able to connect with other people

2041
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:15,360
literally and share and and have these

2042
01:15:18,229 --> 01:15:16,800
commonalities and these experiences and

2043
01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:18,239
sometimes that awakens stuff in other

2044
01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:19,520
individuals so

2045
01:15:24,149 --> 01:15:21,760
you doing this has been it was a massive

2046
01:15:26,229 --> 01:15:24,159
thing um and once again i have seen a

2047
01:15:28,550 --> 01:15:26,239
couple people ask uh in the chat you

2048
01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:28,560
guys for calvin's books i have them both

2049
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:30,640
linked in the chat um excuse me in the

2050
01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:31,679
show notes and they will be if you're

2051
01:15:36,229 --> 01:15:33,920
listening in podcast format as well and

2052
01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:36,239
near the end here i will also link them

2053
01:15:40,550 --> 01:15:38,159
right in the in the chat so that we can

2054
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:40,560
click on those and check them out uh now

2055
01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:42,480
kelvin with those did you i see that

2056
01:15:45,669 --> 01:15:44,159
some of them are in audio format or

2057
01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:45,679
audio book did they have you read the

2058
01:15:48,070 --> 01:15:46,960
stories or did someone else read them

2059
01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:48,080
for you

2060
01:15:52,950 --> 01:15:50,080
somebody else read them

2061
01:15:56,070 --> 01:15:52,960
they did a real good job i got a copy

2062
01:15:57,350 --> 01:15:56,080
and they send me a copy of everything

2063
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:57,360
they put out

2064
01:16:00,550 --> 01:15:59,040
you know

2065
01:16:02,709 --> 01:16:00,560
matter of fact i've been listening to

2066
01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:02,719
the audio book on it

2067
01:16:07,430 --> 01:16:04,560
some when i get in the car or something

2068
01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:07,440
like that you know

2069
01:16:11,189 --> 01:16:08,480
but uh

2070
01:16:13,270 --> 01:16:11,199
they did a good job on them

2071
01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:13,280
very nice i'd say i'm impressed i'm

2072
01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:15,360
impressed my publisher

2073
01:16:18,229 --> 01:16:16,800
most of all

2074
01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:18,239
phillip mantle

2075
01:16:24,070 --> 01:16:21,440
has really worked hard on these books

2076
01:16:26,470 --> 01:16:24,080
he's really been behind me

2077
01:16:27,350 --> 01:16:26,480
and uh he's really helped me through all

2078
01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:27,360
this

2079
01:16:31,270 --> 01:16:29,040
uh

2080
01:16:33,189 --> 01:16:31,280
so you know i just want to throw a big

2081
01:16:35,510 --> 01:16:33,199
thanks out to him it's not too many

2082
01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:35,520
publishers that would do that it's all

2083
01:16:40,229 --> 01:16:38,080
about money to a lot of

2084
01:16:43,669 --> 01:16:40,239
but let me tell everybody it's not money

2085
01:16:45,590 --> 01:16:43,679
in this i mean you take your time you

2086
01:16:49,430 --> 01:16:45,600
donate your time

2087
01:16:51,910 --> 01:16:49,440
and i've donated more time many hours

2088
01:16:54,630 --> 01:16:51,920
sitting behind this computer like this

2089
01:16:57,270 --> 01:16:54,640
i've donated my time to the city

2090
01:16:59,030 --> 01:16:57,280
sometime at book signings and they would

2091
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:59,040
order the books and of course i would

2092
01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:01,360
profit a little from the books but then

2093
01:17:05,590 --> 01:17:03,360
i'd go sit there and i'd sign the books

2094
01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:05,600
and they'd sell them for a little more

2095
01:17:10,790 --> 01:17:07,840
i remember the first book signing i ever

2096
01:17:13,510 --> 01:17:10,800
went to was in passpagula and main

2097
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:13,520
street passpagula put it down

2098
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:16,000
they had to get the police department to

2099
01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:18,320
shut down more roads because people was

2100
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:20,080
wrapped all the way around

2101
01:17:25,270 --> 01:17:22,800
and it shut the traffic down it lasted

2102
01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:25,280
for hours it was thousands of people

2103
01:17:30,070 --> 01:17:27,040
there

2104
01:17:31,189 --> 01:17:30,080
that really surprised me i was impressed

2105
01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:31,199
i said

2106
01:17:38,950 --> 01:17:34,640
you know the local people coming out

2107
01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:38,960
and supporting this and all and you know

2108
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:40,239
every now and then you're going to get

2109
01:17:43,990 --> 01:17:42,480
somebody to be a smart elect a little

2110
01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:44,000
bit and i just don't pay them no

2111
01:17:47,510 --> 01:17:45,120
attention

2112
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:47,520
everybody has their own opinions and

2113
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:48,719
that's great

2114
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:50,719
i could care less if somebody believed

2115
01:17:55,110 --> 01:17:52,960
it or didn't believe it you know i'm

2116
01:17:56,070 --> 01:17:55,120
going to tell the truth the way that i

2117
01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:56,080
know it

2118
01:18:00,390 --> 01:17:58,400
and put it out there and then people can

2119
01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:00,400
believe this or not they don't have to

2120
01:18:06,790 --> 01:18:04,630
well we really appreciate you coming on

2121
01:18:08,550 --> 01:18:06,800
sharing the truth and i think everyone

2122
01:18:10,630 --> 01:18:08,560
and this is just me i think everybody

2123
01:18:12,149 --> 01:18:10,640
recognizes that innate honesty in

2124
01:18:14,070 --> 01:18:12,159
anybody else it always connects a little

2125
01:18:15,510 --> 01:18:14,080
bit and and i don't i'm not saying that

2126
01:18:17,669 --> 01:18:15,520
maybe some people share their story you

2127
01:18:19,669 --> 01:18:17,679
have a lot you've shared

2128
01:18:21,189 --> 01:18:19,679
like you said you know so many hours

2129
01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:21,199
behind the screen sharing the story oh

2130
01:18:25,830 --> 01:18:23,040
my gosh right

2131
01:18:27,990 --> 01:18:25,840
but you can still hear it google my name

2132
01:18:30,790 --> 01:18:28,000
and put ufo behind it

2133
01:18:32,470 --> 01:18:30,800
and you'll see a lot of the stories

2134
01:18:34,790 --> 01:18:32,480
and that's not

2135
01:18:36,390 --> 01:18:34,800
the officials the public officials i've

2136
01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:36,400
shared it with

2137
01:18:39,270 --> 01:18:37,520
that's true

2138
01:18:40,870 --> 01:18:39,280
and like i said i mean for myself you

2139
01:18:43,350 --> 01:18:40,880
can still definitely hear the legitimacy

2140
01:18:45,189 --> 01:18:43,360
in it and hear the experience i mean i i

2141
01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:45,199
always appreciate so much when an

2142
01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:47,679
experiencer um shares their experience

2143
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:48,880
because

2144
01:18:51,990 --> 01:18:50,560
not not that it's every time but i know

2145
01:18:53,910 --> 01:18:52,000
for some people it's like living that

2146
01:18:55,430 --> 01:18:53,920
all over again and that's not always a

2147
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:55,440
fun thing you know

2148
01:18:59,350 --> 01:18:57,840
no i you know actually this has been a

2149
01:19:02,390 --> 01:18:59,360
blessing to me

2150
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:02,400
up until uh the book came out me and my

2151
01:19:06,149 --> 01:19:04,159
wife had never been on a vacation

2152
01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:06,159
together well i started getting

2153
01:19:11,430 --> 01:19:09,280
invitations to go to these conferences

2154
01:19:13,189 --> 01:19:11,440
and i thought well you know i hadn't had

2155
01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:13,199
much time with her

2156
01:19:18,790 --> 01:19:16,560
i'm gonna quit work i don't know

2157
01:19:19,750 --> 01:19:18,800
i'll buy her a plane ticket

2158
01:19:21,669 --> 01:19:19,760
and

2159
01:19:23,350 --> 01:19:21,679
they furnish a motel room with something

2160
01:19:25,510 --> 01:19:23,360
to eat when you get there

2161
01:19:28,070 --> 01:19:25,520
and we started hitting these conferences

2162
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:28,080
and we've had a blast going out we'll

2163
01:19:31,750 --> 01:19:30,000
take that time and we'll go somewhere

2164
01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:31,760
and visit and

2165
01:19:36,950 --> 01:19:34,080
like got to meet a lot of people

2166
01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:36,960
and she's actually handled the press and

2167
01:19:40,630 --> 01:19:39,120
uh everything going on better than i

2168
01:19:41,830 --> 01:19:40,640
have

2169
01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:41,840
and

2170
01:19:45,910 --> 01:19:44,080
so you know it's it's opened us up in

2171
01:19:49,270 --> 01:19:45,920
our marriage it's helped my marriage to

2172
01:19:53,910 --> 01:19:51,110
is it okay if i ask about that i mean

2173
01:19:55,669 --> 01:19:53,920
far as when she finally

2174
01:19:57,430 --> 01:19:55,679
i guess when did you when you did you

2175
01:19:58,790 --> 01:19:57,440
tell her before the book came i guess

2176
01:20:00,550 --> 01:19:58,800
when did that finally happen when did

2177
01:20:02,310 --> 01:20:00,560
you finally open up and say hey honey

2178
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:02,320
here here's what really took place back

2179
01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:07,360
in 73. well let me tell you what i did

2180
01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:10,080
when i got ready to do this book i said

2181
01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:12,080
i'm going to my room i'll come out i'm

2182
01:20:15,270 --> 01:20:14,080
fixing to write that book you want it so

2183
01:20:17,030 --> 01:20:15,280
bad

2184
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:17,040
i said about once a day bring me

2185
01:20:21,590 --> 01:20:18,400
something to eat something to drink and

2186
01:20:23,430 --> 01:20:21,600
i said you won't see me until it's over

2187
01:20:25,110 --> 01:20:23,440
and that's just the way that it was i

2188
01:20:27,030 --> 01:20:25,120
didn't talk to her about it i come back

2189
01:20:29,350 --> 01:20:27,040
here and i got busy

2190
01:20:30,870 --> 01:20:29,360
you know she wouldn't let nobody disturb

2191
01:20:32,550 --> 01:20:30,880
me and everything she'd bring me a

2192
01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:32,560
little something to eat and drink in

2193
01:20:34,390 --> 01:20:33,600
here

2194
01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:34,400
and

2195
01:20:40,390 --> 01:20:38,159
when the book came out just like i said

2196
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:40,400
when i ordered 10 books and when it came

2197
01:20:44,709 --> 01:20:42,560
i handed her a book

2198
01:20:46,470 --> 01:20:44,719
and the rest of my family a book i said

2199
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:46,480
y'all read it

2200
01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:48,880
because i

2201
01:20:57,990 --> 01:20:55,510
i wanted to see the reaction on her face

2202
01:20:59,430 --> 01:20:58,000
when she read it in a book you know and

2203
01:21:01,030 --> 01:20:59,440
i didn't want to be

2204
01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:01,040
um

2205
01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:03,040
you know i wanted her to know and i

2206
01:21:06,149 --> 01:21:04,560
wanted to be the one to tell her and

2207
01:21:07,350 --> 01:21:06,159
since then you know we talked a lot

2208
01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:07,360
about it

2209
01:21:11,110 --> 01:21:09,520
but i just wanted to see her reaction

2210
01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:11,120
when she read the book and all because

2211
01:21:14,629 --> 01:21:12,880
that was her ideal

2212
01:21:16,629 --> 01:21:14,639
something she wanted me to do because i

2213
01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:16,639
could care less of it one come out or

2214
01:21:19,990 --> 01:21:17,600
not

2215
01:21:21,430 --> 01:21:20,000
but looking back on it has been the best

2216
01:21:25,510 --> 01:21:21,440
thing that happened

2217
01:21:31,270 --> 01:21:27,030
yeah

2218
01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:31,280
finally came out

2219
01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:32,880
um

2220
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:34,320
was it was it a little bit of a weight

2221
01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:36,239
off your shoulders that did you feel

2222
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:37,840
like maybe had been carrying this this

2223
01:21:40,629 --> 01:21:39,120
thing that maybe didn't feel like much

2224
01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:40,639
of a weight but once it was finally out

2225
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:42,400
there at least it was her if nothing

2226
01:21:46,709 --> 01:21:43,920
else this weight kind of lifted a little

2227
01:21:49,510 --> 01:21:46,719
bit i did and uh

2228
01:21:51,189 --> 01:21:49,520
you know it opened up my family and

2229
01:21:53,030 --> 01:21:51,199
there's a lot of people in my

2230
01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:53,040
neighborhood you know i wouldn't even

2231
01:21:56,470 --> 01:21:54,960
let her call my name out in public when

2232
01:21:58,629 --> 01:21:56,480
we lived here

2233
01:22:00,950 --> 01:21:58,639
and there's a lot of people a lot of my

2234
01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:00,960
neighbors and all that wanted to know

2235
01:22:05,270 --> 01:22:02,800
about this when the book came out and

2236
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:05,280
they found out because you know the news

2237
01:22:08,629 --> 01:22:06,800
media would come by and they'd have me

2238
01:22:10,950 --> 01:22:08,639
on local news every day and then just

2239
01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:10,960
take pictures of me uh

2240
01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:14,159
doing something and post it on the news

2241
01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:14,960
and

2242
01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:17,520
really no interviews

2243
01:22:20,070 --> 01:22:18,400
so

2244
01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:20,080
you know it was a big weight off my

2245
01:22:24,310 --> 01:22:21,920
shoulders to be able to tell the story

2246
01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:24,320
and get it out there

2247
01:22:28,629 --> 01:22:26,719
now i do have one other question because

2248
01:22:29,830 --> 01:22:28,639
i've heard of this in passing and i do

2249
01:22:31,830 --> 01:22:29,840
think it's it's kind of interesting in

2250
01:22:33,910 --> 01:22:31,840
relative to the situation which is you

2251
01:22:35,590 --> 01:22:33,920
actually had another experience uh in

2252
01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:35,600
the 90s if i'm not mistaken is that

2253
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:36,480
correct

2254
01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:37,520
yes sure

2255
01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:40,320
in uh 83

2256
01:22:44,870 --> 01:22:43,040
oh okay so so about a decade later then

2257
01:22:47,030 --> 01:22:44,880
right right

2258
01:22:49,189 --> 01:22:47,040
and what what happened on that that you

2259
01:22:51,830 --> 01:22:49,199
again i believe we're fishing right

2260
01:22:53,990 --> 01:22:51,840
i was fishing

2261
01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:54,000
guys want to go meet an alien or see a

2262
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:55,760
crowd better get out there in the woods

2263
01:22:58,870 --> 01:22:57,520
go relax and tree stand or go fishing

2264
01:23:02,149 --> 01:22:58,880
and they're going to come find you it

2265
01:23:04,310 --> 01:23:02,159
sounds like this is a long story here oh

2266
01:23:05,590 --> 01:23:04,320
well let's do it

2267
01:23:08,550 --> 01:23:05,600
but anyhow

2268
01:23:10,709 --> 01:23:08,560
i went fishing i told my wife

2269
01:23:13,990 --> 01:23:10,719
back then after this happened to me in

2270
01:23:15,110 --> 01:23:14,000
73 i didn't fish at night

2271
01:23:17,189 --> 01:23:15,120
so uh

2272
01:23:18,830 --> 01:23:17,199
i told my wife i said i'm gonna run out

2273
01:23:21,189 --> 01:23:18,840
to the islands do a little bit of

2274
01:23:24,149 --> 01:23:21,199
fishing and uh

2275
01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:24,159
i'll be back before dark

2276
01:23:29,510 --> 01:23:26,560
well she fixed me a little lunch and i

2277
01:23:31,990 --> 01:23:29,520
remember sitting there eating my lunch

2278
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:32,000
and uh waiting on the tide to change so

2279
01:23:37,350 --> 01:23:34,320
the fish would be running and look it up

2280
01:23:38,790 --> 01:23:37,360
in the sky and it was a big cloud

2281
01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:38,800
in the sky

2282
01:23:42,310 --> 01:23:39,679
and

2283
01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:42,320
apparently there was a craft there

2284
01:23:45,110 --> 01:23:43,679
and

2285
01:23:47,270 --> 01:23:45,120
more or less

2286
01:23:48,470 --> 01:23:47,280
what to say they kind of beam me up and

2287
01:23:51,510 --> 01:23:48,480
i think they

2288
01:23:53,990 --> 01:23:51,520
was after this implant they put in my

2289
01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:54,000
nasal cavity

2290
01:23:58,550 --> 01:23:56,080
and i think that's the reason for this

2291
01:23:59,590 --> 01:23:58,560
they wanted to take it out

2292
01:24:03,669 --> 01:23:59,600
so

2293
01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:03,679
i got pulled up and this time

2294
01:24:07,030 --> 01:24:05,760
i wasn't going without a fight i

2295
01:24:09,110 --> 01:24:07,040
actually

2296
01:24:11,270 --> 01:24:09,120
beat her damn head against the ball me

2297
01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:11,280
and her boat was bleeding

2298
01:24:16,149 --> 01:24:12,800
oh wow

2299
01:24:18,070 --> 01:24:16,159
we got in the physical confrontation

2300
01:24:20,229 --> 01:24:18,080
that day and i'm not going to get all

2301
01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:20,239
into that right now but uh yeah no no

2302
01:24:24,149 --> 01:24:22,400
you have to be back i will but anyhow it

2303
01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:24,159
got real physical

2304
01:24:28,629 --> 01:24:26,880
and to make a long story short i got put

2305
01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:28,639
back on my boat

2306
01:24:32,229 --> 01:24:30,400
and it was three o'clock the next

2307
01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:32,239
morning and me not fishing at night

2308
01:24:38,229 --> 01:24:35,760
before i got back to uh my truck

2309
01:24:39,430 --> 01:24:38,239
and she had the coast guard now waiting

2310
01:24:41,270 --> 01:24:39,440
on me because she thought i'd been

2311
01:24:44,229 --> 01:24:41,280
drowned or something we're talking

2312
01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:44,239
almost 16 hours

2313
01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:45,760
right

2314
01:24:48,629 --> 01:24:46,960
wow

2315
01:24:49,590 --> 01:24:48,639
now if you don't mind we're really quick

2316
01:24:51,110 --> 01:24:49,600
too because you mentioned not too much

2317
01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:51,120
more time just when do you got to get

2318
01:24:54,390 --> 01:24:53,040
out here that way i can if anybody has

2319
01:24:55,350 --> 01:24:54,400
some questions i had two of them said i

2320
01:24:57,189 --> 01:24:55,360
want to make sure i get them to you

2321
01:24:58,390 --> 01:24:57,199
before anybody what time would you like

2322
01:24:59,669 --> 01:24:58,400
to get out of here for us today we

2323
01:25:00,790 --> 01:24:59,679
appreciate all the time you've given us

2324
01:25:02,390 --> 01:25:00,800
but

2325
01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:02,400
um

2326
01:25:06,790 --> 01:25:04,560
well you know i'm getting pretty tired

2327
01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:06,800
after the chemo treatment so yeah yeah

2328
01:25:10,790 --> 01:25:08,719
no no worries at all i'm willing to

2329
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:10,800
answer some more questions right now

2330
01:25:14,470 --> 01:25:13,120
perfect well let me do this really quick

2331
01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:14,480
um because i'll get you talking about

2332
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:15,520
this and i'll bring in i know one

2333
01:25:19,910 --> 01:25:17,280
gentleman had a question specifically

2334
01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:19,920
number one um why he did kind of cover

2335
01:25:23,510 --> 01:25:21,199
this a little bit but i will bring it up

2336
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:23,520
he said how much of the 45 minutes do

2337
01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:25,120
you recall thank you so far as the

2338
01:25:29,750 --> 01:25:26,880
original abduction so

2339
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:32,870
yeah yeah

2340
01:25:36,950 --> 01:25:34,790
really quick from adam ambrose which is

2341
01:25:38,470 --> 01:25:36,960
calvin was this experience frightening

2342
01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:38,480
for you was it good or pleasant

2343
01:25:40,870 --> 01:25:39,440
experience at all and i believe they

2344
01:25:42,310 --> 01:25:40,880
were referring to the first experience

2345
01:25:44,470 --> 01:25:42,320
that we had talked about tonight not

2346
01:25:45,910 --> 01:25:44,480
this one that you just mentioned uh it

2347
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:45,920
was uh

2348
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:47,520
you know you

2349
01:25:51,830 --> 01:25:49,360
you're an eighteen-year-old kid and

2350
01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:51,840
that's all you are as a kid and you go

2351
01:25:54,790 --> 01:25:53,679
through something like that

2352
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:54,800
and uh

2353
01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:56,880
yeah it's scary

2354
01:26:00,629 --> 01:25:59,120
and uh i actually had a nervous

2355
01:26:02,229 --> 01:26:00,639
breakdown they had to put me in the

2356
01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:02,239
hospital after that for a nervous

2357
01:26:08,870 --> 01:26:03,840
breakdown

2358
01:26:13,189 --> 01:26:11,350
very interesting um and then my own

2359
01:26:14,229 --> 01:26:13,199
personal question just really quick

2360
01:26:16,709 --> 01:26:14,239
would be

2361
01:26:18,629 --> 01:26:16,719
to be clear with the second um

2362
01:26:19,990 --> 01:26:18,639
abduction that was taking place

2363
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:20,000
you essentially got beamed up but are

2364
01:26:23,750 --> 01:26:22,000
you saying it was the same being the

2365
01:26:26,149 --> 01:26:23,760
same female from the first

2366
01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:26,159
encounter exactly

2367
01:26:29,430 --> 01:26:27,520
wow now

2368
01:26:32,550 --> 01:26:29,440
somebody said well they might have had a

2369
01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:32,560
disguise on they might not look like

2370
01:26:37,830 --> 01:26:35,600
but no you know as far as i remember it

2371
01:26:41,590 --> 01:26:37,840
was the same one

2372
01:26:43,590 --> 01:26:41,600
okay yeah you know the best i could tell

2373
01:26:44,629 --> 01:26:43,600
excuse me well let me do this really

2374
01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:44,639
quick guys i just want to see if i

2375
01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:46,000
missed any any other one that was really

2376
01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:46,719
quick because we don't want to keep

2377
01:26:49,590 --> 01:26:48,400
kelvin here too long tonight we really

2378
01:26:52,709 --> 01:26:49,600
appreciate the time you do have i have

2379
01:26:53,510 --> 01:26:52,719
one person who's hopping on excuse me

2380
01:26:55,189 --> 01:26:53,520
uh

2381
01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:55,199
to ask the question i told my give them

2382
01:26:57,270 --> 01:26:56,560
a chance to ask you in person so i'm

2383
01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:57,280
gonna

2384
01:27:01,270 --> 01:26:59,360
hold on for them for just a minute okay

2385
01:27:02,950 --> 01:27:01,280
and see if i have anything else on here

2386
01:27:05,350 --> 01:27:02,960
yeah we got i got i'm gonna have to get

2387
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:05,360
your second book for sure then and did

2388
01:27:08,709 --> 01:27:07,280
you now did you speak about that that

2389
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:08,719
second experience in either the books

2390
01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:10,639
did you write about it i did in the

2391
01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:12,960
first 10 seconds went a little bit in

2392
01:27:16,390 --> 01:27:14,800
the first and i'd be more than glad to

2393
01:27:19,030 --> 01:27:16,400
come back on the show if y'all want me

2394
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:19,040
to come back and do it oh yeah it's just

2395
01:27:23,430 --> 01:27:21,120
i can't say it too long right now

2396
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:23,440
because of oh

2397
01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:25,760
you know it just hurts so bad

2398
01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:27,679
i understand no worries at all i know

2399
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:28,880
joe

2400
01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:33,040
i'd love to come if you come back i'll

2401
01:27:36,709 --> 01:27:34,480
make sure i get you set up with them

2402
01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:36,719
because it's really their show uh the

2403
01:27:41,030 --> 01:27:39,520
ufo garage podcast would not exist there

2404
01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:41,040
wouldn't be me doing any of this it

2405
01:27:45,830 --> 01:27:43,679
would if it wasn't for them uh and and

2406
01:27:48,149 --> 01:27:45,840
what they've really focused on is is the

2407
01:27:49,510 --> 01:27:48,159
experiencers and the experiencers maybe

2408
01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:49,520
that you know maybe not everybody knows

2409
01:27:52,310 --> 01:27:50,480
and they're just coming out and sharing

2410
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:52,320
their story because no matter who you

2411
01:27:55,430 --> 01:27:53,760
are if you've had an experience that's

2412
01:27:58,229 --> 01:27:55,440
you know the important thing

2413
01:28:03,750 --> 01:28:00,310
okay so i personally got to meet travis

2414
01:28:05,990 --> 01:28:03,760
walton and terry lovelace and all them

2415
01:28:08,070 --> 01:28:06,000
when that and people say well do you

2416
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:08,080
believe them well who am i to doubt

2417
01:28:13,910 --> 01:28:10,960
anything that they've done i know travis

2418
01:28:16,310 --> 01:28:13,920
had a lot of controversy coming up yeah

2419
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:16,320
on facebook and all but i don't pay that

2420
01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:18,400
stuff no attention

2421
01:28:22,310 --> 01:28:21,040
he he knows i don't know

2422
01:28:24,470 --> 01:28:22,320
exactly

2423
01:28:25,350 --> 01:28:24,480
and really quick to hit on that then

2424
01:28:26,470 --> 01:28:25,360
have

2425
01:28:27,350 --> 01:28:26,480
i heard that you had mentioned there's

2426
01:28:31,510 --> 01:28:27,360
like a

2427
01:28:32,950 --> 01:28:31,520
something in the impossible works that

2428
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:32,960
way for you to kind of cover this

2429
01:28:36,629 --> 01:28:34,880
experience that took place yeah it was

2430
01:28:38,629 --> 01:28:36,639
going to be a movie and it was supposed

2431
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:38,639
to already be done

2432
01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:41,040
but the kovic took care of all that they

2433
01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:43,440
won't do all that so now we should

2434
01:28:48,149 --> 01:28:45,760
reaching out to netflix or

2435
01:28:50,950 --> 01:28:48,159
uh steve arkey back together

2436
01:28:52,709 --> 01:28:50,960
screenwriter and playwriter and the

2437
01:28:54,229 --> 01:28:52,719
seller of this

2438
01:28:56,149 --> 01:28:54,239
and uh

2439
01:28:58,229 --> 01:28:56,159
you know it's gonna be a little mini

2440
01:29:00,310 --> 01:28:58,239
six-part mini-series

2441
01:29:03,189 --> 01:29:00,320
we got a documentary that was supposed

2442
01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:03,199
to already come out we got one out but

2443
01:29:06,629 --> 01:29:05,760
they got a real thorough one coming out

2444
01:29:09,110 --> 01:29:06,639
and

2445
01:29:10,390 --> 01:29:09,120
the people from london is coming down

2446
01:29:12,229 --> 01:29:10,400
this spring

2447
01:29:13,510 --> 01:29:12,239
when the kobe kind of settles down you

2448
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:13,520
know

2449
01:29:17,430 --> 01:29:15,600
perfect all right well we got joshua

2450
01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:17,440
casey here i'm gonna let him ask his

2451
01:29:19,590 --> 01:29:18,800
question in person and then and we're

2452
01:29:21,830 --> 01:29:19,600
gonna let you get out of here for

2453
01:29:23,030 --> 01:29:21,840
tonight calvin okay okay

2454
01:29:25,030 --> 01:29:23,040
josh what's happening brother thank you

2455
01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:25,040
for hopping on there

2456
01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:26,560
how's it going man thank you for having

2457
01:29:31,030 --> 01:29:29,280
me hey josh good to see you

2458
01:29:32,950 --> 01:29:31,040
i gotta say you're one of the earl

2459
01:29:34,870 --> 01:29:32,960
excuse me the earliest cases i remember

2460
01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:34,880
um back whenever i was a skeptic before

2461
01:29:37,750 --> 01:29:36,960
i believe in any of this

2462
01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:37,760
um

2463
01:29:40,790 --> 01:29:39,280
my question real quick i know you got to

2464
01:29:42,390 --> 01:29:40,800
get off um

2465
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:42,400
like i said i was a skeptic last year

2466
01:29:45,910 --> 01:29:44,719
this year i began seeing orbs

2467
01:29:47,830 --> 01:29:45,920
and um

2468
01:29:49,750 --> 01:29:47,840
some other bizarre experience i really

2469
01:29:51,750 --> 01:29:49,760
want to know uh

2470
01:29:53,030 --> 01:29:51,760
what did it make you feel about

2471
01:29:55,030 --> 01:29:53,040
i don't want to get too deep but like

2472
01:29:56,709 --> 01:29:55,040
your spiritual you know like your place

2473
01:29:58,709 --> 01:29:56,719
in the universe just

2474
01:30:00,629 --> 01:29:58,719
i mean how did it make you question

2475
01:30:03,750 --> 01:30:00,639
everything that make you rethink reality

2476
01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:03,760
like what's your thoughts on that well i

2477
01:30:09,350 --> 01:30:06,800
come up a devout christian

2478
01:30:10,550 --> 01:30:09,360
and i've never questioned my faith in

2479
01:30:12,310 --> 01:30:10,560
god

2480
01:30:14,070 --> 01:30:12,320
or jesus and all

2481
01:30:16,310 --> 01:30:14,080
or anything you know that's always

2482
01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:16,320
strong and it stood still

2483
01:30:20,629 --> 01:30:18,320
and you know you would think

2484
01:30:22,310 --> 01:30:20,639
i've got a pretty good chance

2485
01:30:24,629 --> 01:30:22,320
this you know take me out of my whole

2486
01:30:26,870 --> 01:30:24,639
life there's no cancer and stuff and you

2487
01:30:29,189 --> 01:30:26,880
would think that i would be crawfishing

2488
01:30:30,870 --> 01:30:29,199
back if there was anything

2489
01:30:33,750 --> 01:30:30,880
uh

2490
01:30:34,870 --> 01:30:33,760
that i needed to counteract on or go

2491
01:30:37,510 --> 01:30:34,880
back on

2492
01:30:39,750 --> 01:30:37,520
but i'm not you know i stand behind

2493
01:30:41,910 --> 01:30:39,760
what's happened i stand behind god and i

2494
01:30:44,790 --> 01:30:41,920
stand behind my family

2495
01:30:47,110 --> 01:30:44,800
now i had done right through the years

2496
01:30:49,669 --> 01:30:47,120
there's times that i was too hard on my

2497
01:30:51,510 --> 01:30:49,679
family and too hard on myself

2498
01:30:52,950 --> 01:30:51,520
but

2499
01:30:53,669 --> 01:30:52,960
you know

2500
01:30:59,030 --> 01:30:53,679
the

2501
01:31:00,709 --> 01:30:59,040
yeah i i want to say on personally it

2502
01:31:03,669 --> 01:31:00,719
made me feel really humble i was a

2503
01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:03,679
little bit atheist um i'm

2504
01:31:08,390 --> 01:31:06,400
i'm just a little more spiritual but um

2505
01:31:10,310 --> 01:31:08,400
uh one other quick thing did you ever

2506
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:10,320
feel like you were going on like

2507
01:31:14,870 --> 01:31:12,560
overload of information whenever you

2508
01:31:17,669 --> 01:31:14,880
first had this realization that all this

2509
01:31:21,270 --> 01:31:17,679
is real

2510
01:31:23,669 --> 01:31:21,280
i don't know quite how to answer that uh

2511
01:31:25,990 --> 01:31:23,679
you know up until this happened to me i

2512
01:31:28,229 --> 01:31:26,000
never even heard of ufos

2513
01:31:31,990 --> 01:31:28,239
i'm just no country boy

2514
01:31:34,870 --> 01:31:32,000
they got out worked in the field and uh

2515
01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:34,880
made it to school not too far you know i

2516
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:37,600
didn't have a big education you know

2517
01:31:40,310 --> 01:31:38,400
so

2518
01:31:44,550 --> 01:31:40,320
you know it's it's hard to answer this

2519
01:31:47,110 --> 01:31:44,560
is all kind of reality to me

2520
01:31:48,870 --> 01:31:47,120
yeah all right i completely agree um it

2521
01:31:50,870 --> 01:31:48,880
wasn't in my definition of reality

2522
01:31:53,510 --> 01:31:50,880
either so it's just kind of a shock to

2523
01:31:55,830 --> 01:31:53,520
the system but i it makes me feel humble

2524
01:31:56,830 --> 01:31:55,840
it does yeah it's something bigger than

2525
01:31:59,669 --> 01:31:56,840
you you

2526
01:32:02,629 --> 01:31:59,679
know i really do thank you for your time

2527
01:32:03,669 --> 01:32:02,639
you're welcome and i enjoyed it

2528
01:32:05,030 --> 01:32:03,679
all right josh i'm going to take you

2529
01:32:06,070 --> 01:32:05,040
backstage because i'm going to probably

2530
01:32:07,189 --> 01:32:06,080
stay on afterwards so if you want to

2531
01:32:08,149 --> 01:32:07,199
hang out for a minute yeah i'm just

2532
01:32:10,709 --> 01:32:08,159
going to take you back there for just a

2533
01:32:12,470 --> 01:32:10,719
minute while i get him out of here okay

2534
01:32:14,070 --> 01:32:12,480
all right all right thanks brother and

2535
01:32:15,510 --> 01:32:14,080
if you've got to go you can also go you

2536
01:32:17,590 --> 01:32:15,520
don't have to stay i'm just offering if

2537
01:32:20,149 --> 01:32:17,600
you want so i will be backstage you feel

2538
01:32:21,350 --> 01:32:20,159
free to do what you'd like okay

2539
01:32:23,830 --> 01:32:21,360
all right peace

2540
01:32:25,590 --> 01:32:23,840
um really quick um someone was asking

2541
01:32:27,990 --> 01:32:25,600
tammy tammy finnegan says does kelvin

2542
01:32:33,030 --> 01:32:28,000
have a website so do you have a website

2543
01:32:35,990 --> 01:32:34,470
my web

2544
01:32:38,390 --> 01:32:36,000
it's hard to tell you how to get there

2545
01:32:41,270 --> 01:32:38,400
but uh andrew hoffman

2546
01:32:42,709 --> 01:32:41,280
built this website and it's a good site

2547
01:32:45,910 --> 01:32:42,719
and uh

2548
01:32:47,910 --> 01:32:45,920
it's under calvin parker ufo or

2549
01:32:50,709 --> 01:32:47,920
something like that it's posted

2550
01:32:54,550 --> 01:32:50,719
somewhere in some of this public stuff

2551
01:32:56,470 --> 01:32:54,560
and it's on my facebook page somewhere

2552
01:32:58,790 --> 01:32:56,480
so you know i do have a website

2553
01:33:01,590 --> 01:32:58,800
somewhere and i already post the website

2554
01:33:03,510 --> 01:33:01,600
on my facebook page when i get off

2555
01:33:05,350 --> 01:33:03,520
perfect yeah and if you get that to me

2556
01:33:07,110 --> 01:33:05,360
i'll i'll add that to the show notes as

2557
01:33:08,629 --> 01:33:07,120
well the last question i'm going to give

2558
01:33:10,790 --> 01:33:08,639
here guys just because he we're going to

2559
01:33:13,430 --> 01:33:10,800
get him out of here for tonight uh what

2560
01:33:15,910 --> 01:33:13,440
was from bob jones uh he once he says

2561
01:33:17,910 --> 01:33:15,920
can you please ask calvin why do you

2562
01:33:19,830 --> 01:33:17,920
think it took so long to be returned

2563
01:33:22,229 --> 01:33:19,840
from the second encounter versus that

2564
01:33:26,229 --> 01:33:22,239
first one that you had

2565
01:33:28,550 --> 01:33:26,239
i don't know i can't really answer that

2566
01:33:29,990 --> 01:33:28,560
oh you know it like you say it was a

2567
01:33:33,350 --> 01:33:30,000
decade

2568
01:33:35,669 --> 01:33:33,360
yeah i really do feel like they put uh

2569
01:33:37,430 --> 01:33:35,679
something to track me

2570
01:33:39,430 --> 01:33:37,440
in there and maybe it was getting time

2571
01:33:40,870 --> 01:33:39,440
to change it out or they needed to get

2572
01:33:43,669 --> 01:33:40,880
it out or

2573
01:33:45,590 --> 01:33:43,679
i really don't know

2574
01:33:48,310 --> 01:33:45,600
is it okay to ask too did you did you

2575
01:33:51,030 --> 01:33:48,320
have still physical damage to your body

2576
01:33:51,910 --> 01:33:51,040
being returned that second time

2577
01:33:54,310 --> 01:33:51,920
uh

2578
01:33:56,790 --> 01:33:54,320
yeah where they had beat the hell out of

2579
01:33:58,629 --> 01:33:56,800
me and you know other than that it was

2580
01:34:00,310 --> 01:33:58,639
okay well we're going to leave it on

2581
01:34:01,590 --> 01:34:00,320
that cliffhanger because i i want to get

2582
01:34:02,550 --> 01:34:01,600
that straight we'll leave that to ben

2583
01:34:04,950 --> 01:34:02,560
and joe

2584
01:34:07,910 --> 01:34:04,960
we we appreciate you so much for coming

2585
01:34:09,910 --> 01:34:07,920
on tonight and hanging out

2586
01:34:12,629 --> 01:34:09,920
and y'all do have me back and i'll be

2587
01:34:13,510 --> 01:34:12,639
glad we'll get all into this second deal

2588
01:34:14,550 --> 01:34:13,520
here

2589
01:34:16,149 --> 01:34:14,560
100

2590
01:34:18,070 --> 01:34:16,159
uh and like i said guys the show notes

2591
01:34:19,189 --> 01:34:18,080
are all in there so you guys go go click

2592
01:34:20,470 --> 01:34:19,199
on those if you'd like to get his book

2593
01:34:21,669 --> 01:34:20,480
and support him and his wife so they can

2594
01:34:23,030 --> 01:34:21,679
take some more trips together and go

2595
01:34:25,270 --> 01:34:23,040
hang out and do some other things we got

2596
01:34:27,350 --> 01:34:25,280
i love that uh kelvin this has been an

2597
01:34:29,910 --> 01:34:27,360
absolute uh treat and pleasure i want to

2598
01:34:31,350 --> 01:34:29,920
wish you a fantastic evening enjoy the

2599
01:34:32,709 --> 01:34:31,360
rest of your weekend

2600
01:34:34,149 --> 01:34:32,719
and uh

2601
01:34:35,430 --> 01:34:34,159
happy late

2602
01:34:36,790 --> 01:34:35,440
early anniversary here i guess we're

2603
01:34:38,310 --> 01:34:36,800
getting close to that for you guys oh

2604
01:34:41,189 --> 01:34:38,320
yeah

2605
01:34:43,750 --> 01:34:41,199
thank you i appreciate it i enjoyed it

2606
01:34:44,629 --> 01:34:43,760
like i say this is the first

2607
01:34:46,629 --> 01:34:44,639
first

2608
01:34:48,790 --> 01:34:46,639
time i've been on since i was diagnosed

2609
01:34:51,030 --> 01:34:48,800
with cancer

2610
01:34:52,950 --> 01:34:51,040
to uh sit and talk and i was sick way

2611
01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:52,960
before that i just didn't know what was

2612
01:34:54,709 --> 01:34:53,760
wrong

2613
01:34:57,109 --> 01:34:54,719
yeah

2614
01:34:59,109 --> 01:34:57,119
all right brother we'll we'll keep you

2615
01:35:00,470 --> 01:34:59,119
in our prayers excuse me and positive

2616
01:35:01,669 --> 01:35:00,480
thoughts and vibes i know everybody said

2617
01:35:04,070 --> 01:35:01,679
they're out there they're praying for

2618
01:35:05,350 --> 01:35:04,080
you sending those positive vibes and uh

2619
01:35:06,629 --> 01:35:05,360
you enjoy the rest of your evening i'll

2620
01:35:07,669 --> 01:35:06,639
take you backstage and i can remove you

2621
01:35:08,709 --> 01:35:07,679
if you can't see how to do it but there

2622
01:35:09,750 --> 01:35:08,719
should be a remove button you'll be able

2623
01:35:11,910 --> 01:35:09,760
to take yourself out and you'll be

2624
01:35:14,149 --> 01:35:11,920
awesome okay thank you all right thank

2625
01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:14,159
you brother have a good one thank you

2626
01:35:20,790 --> 01:35:19,590
all righty there we go josh i got you

2627
01:35:22,070 --> 01:35:20,800
back in there all right perfect that

2628
01:35:22,709 --> 01:35:22,080
actually flipped you right in as soon as

2629
01:35:24,709 --> 01:35:22,719
you

2630
01:35:26,830 --> 01:35:24,719
like flip it right in there

2631
01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:26,840
wow guys

2632
01:35:30,870 --> 01:35:29,040
man y'all were killing him yeah that was

2633
01:35:32,790 --> 01:35:30,880
that was awesome i missed i missed

2634
01:35:34,550 --> 01:35:32,800
everything about the second abduction i

2635
01:35:37,270 --> 01:35:34,560
didn't hear anything about that

2636
01:35:40,310 --> 01:35:37,280
we didn't get much all he basically said

2637
01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:40,320
was he he went out fishing and if i and

2638
01:35:43,830 --> 01:35:41,520
guys correct me in the chat if i got it

2639
01:35:46,070 --> 01:35:43,840
wrong it's about 11 a.m

2640
01:35:47,669 --> 01:35:46,080
and he got beamed up this time there was

2641
01:35:49,030 --> 01:35:47,679
no i mean obviously he didn't give

2642
01:35:50,070 --> 01:35:49,040
details so i can't say but then i think

2643
01:35:51,590 --> 01:35:50,080
the only thing he said was that he kind

2644
01:35:53,510 --> 01:35:51,600
of got beamed up

2645
01:35:55,830 --> 01:35:53,520
and he said this time he fought he said

2646
01:35:57,430 --> 01:35:55,840
this time him and the same same lady the

2647
01:35:59,350 --> 01:35:57,440
same entity

2648
01:36:00,790 --> 01:35:59,360
he said beat the crap out of each other

2649
01:36:02,390 --> 01:36:00,800
and he didn't want to go into detail but

2650
01:36:03,590 --> 01:36:02,400
he said they were slamming each other

2651
01:36:05,750 --> 01:36:03,600
into the walls the point where she was

2652
01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:05,760
bleeding he was bleeding

2653
01:36:09,430 --> 01:36:08,320
i i mean ben and joe i know some joe if

2654
01:36:10,550 --> 01:36:09,440
you and amanda are still driving and

2655
01:36:13,669 --> 01:36:10,560
listening

2656
01:36:14,950 --> 01:36:13,679
and ben 100 he said he'd come back out

2657
01:36:16,870 --> 01:36:14,960
and share that and really get into that

2658
01:36:19,109 --> 01:36:16,880
story because that's that's a lot but

2659
01:36:21,350 --> 01:36:19,119
basically he went missing at 11 a.m and

2660
01:36:23,990 --> 01:36:21,360
he didn't return he woke back up at

2661
01:36:25,669 --> 01:36:24,000
about 3 a.m the next day so he was gone

2662
01:36:26,709 --> 01:36:25,679
for 16 hours his wife had the coast

2663
01:36:28,229 --> 01:36:26,719
guard out there and stuff thinking he

2664
01:36:30,870 --> 01:36:28,239
had drowned

2665
01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:30,880
holy crap

2666
01:36:34,070 --> 01:36:32,800
oh yeah by the way guys for everybody

2667
01:36:35,109 --> 01:36:34,080
who's saying we did a great job tonight

2668
01:36:37,430 --> 01:36:35,119
i mean

2669
01:36:39,669 --> 01:36:37,440
thank you so much for that but honestly

2670
01:36:41,990 --> 01:36:39,679
come on i mean i kelvin did all the did

2671
01:36:44,550 --> 01:36:42,000
all the work there for us tonight

2672
01:36:47,350 --> 01:36:44,560
i was uh very excited when we were able

2673
01:36:48,550 --> 01:36:47,360
to get that one set up um and especially

2674
01:36:50,070 --> 01:36:48,560
with everything he's been through the

2675
01:36:52,470 --> 01:36:50,080
past year has been pretty hard on him

2676
01:36:55,030 --> 01:36:52,480
and everything that way so ben i know

2677
01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:55,040
you're on father duties uh but if you if

2678
01:36:58,709 --> 01:36:57,360
you're open to it i know that anybody

2679
01:36:59,990 --> 01:36:58,719
would love you guys and i know we've got

2680
01:37:01,270 --> 01:37:00,000
we actually got we got finished up

2681
01:37:04,070 --> 01:37:01,280
pretty early today we got a good hour

2682
01:37:07,270 --> 01:37:04,080
and 20 minutes left before

2683
01:37:08,950 --> 01:37:07,280
before we roll into uh to sor and i was

2684
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:08,960
gonna check to see who we got on the slr

2685
01:37:11,750 --> 01:37:10,480
tonight or who lin's gonna have on there

2686
01:37:12,709 --> 01:37:11,760
but i don't think they put it up just

2687
01:37:14,229 --> 01:37:12,719
yet

2688
01:37:16,229 --> 01:37:14,239
if anybody knows throw it in the chat

2689
01:37:18,310 --> 01:37:16,239
and i will throw that up obviously guys

2690
01:37:20,709 --> 01:37:18,320
you can catch uh dave scott monday

2691
01:37:23,270 --> 01:37:20,719
through fridays uh i'm gonna go with

2692
01:37:25,430 --> 01:37:23,280
eastern time so 12 a.m to 3 a.m eastern

2693
01:37:28,310 --> 01:37:25,440
time zone i believe on the the pacific

2694
01:37:30,229 --> 01:37:28,320
time zone it's 9 p.m to 12 a.m and you

2695
01:37:32,390 --> 01:37:30,239
got lynn wallington who runs the same

2696
01:37:34,070 --> 01:37:32,400
times but on saturday and sunday and

2697
01:37:35,189 --> 01:37:34,080
then you got uh like i said the big

2698
01:37:37,030 --> 01:37:35,199
announcement we were really excited

2699
01:37:39,189 --> 01:37:37,040
about myself and john hudson and gemma

2700
01:37:40,470 --> 01:37:39,199
jade over there with steve stockton uh

2701
01:37:42,870 --> 01:37:40,480
we're gonna all three of us be doing an

2702
01:37:44,870 --> 01:37:42,880
after-hours show coming up uh the second

2703
01:37:46,310 --> 01:37:44,880
weekend of december there so i'm very

2704
01:37:48,709 --> 01:37:46,320
excited about that

2705
01:37:49,830 --> 01:37:48,719
um but yeah so how's your night going

2706
01:37:50,870 --> 01:37:49,840
though josh i was i don't know if you

2707
01:37:53,189 --> 01:37:50,880
were able to hang out for a couple

2708
01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:53,199
minutes or not if not that's okay

2709
01:37:57,510 --> 01:37:56,159
definitely man actually i've got a um a

2710
01:38:01,350 --> 01:37:57,520
new roommate

2711
01:38:02,149 --> 01:38:01,360
who uh witnessed an orb with me kind of

2712
01:38:04,070 --> 01:38:02,159
they

2713
01:38:06,149 --> 01:38:04,080
really had to drop an

2714
01:38:07,910 --> 01:38:06,159
assault of information on them they're

2715
01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:07,920
asking me questions in a second now but

2716
01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:09,600
i mean in the way it kind of makes me

2717
01:38:12,790 --> 01:38:10,960
feel good that somebody else has seen

2718
01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:12,800
this with me you know so no i'm not

2719
01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:15,119
totally crazy

2720
01:38:18,790 --> 01:38:17,280
yeah it's um i mean it's that's kind of

2721
01:38:20,229 --> 01:38:18,800
why i asked him that question earlier

2722
01:38:22,550 --> 01:38:20,239
about you know just rethinking your

2723
01:38:24,870 --> 01:38:22,560
whole reality because i mean to me it's

2724
01:38:27,030 --> 01:38:24,880
a paradigm shift like no other you know

2725
01:38:28,950 --> 01:38:27,040
you realize this rule that you never

2726
01:38:32,229 --> 01:38:28,960
thought possible your entire life and

2727
01:38:33,750 --> 01:38:32,239
then suddenly rethinking everything

2728
01:38:35,669 --> 01:38:33,760
yeah

2729
01:38:38,070 --> 01:38:35,679
yes it is uh let's see really quick too

2730
01:38:40,310 --> 01:38:38,080
amanda said yes uh still on the road but

2731
01:38:41,830 --> 01:38:40,320
loving a great job oh thank you uh so

2732
01:38:43,030 --> 01:38:41,840
yeah amanda will be on for a little bit

2733
01:38:45,109 --> 01:38:43,040
not that you have to get on there but

2734
01:38:46,790 --> 01:38:45,119
yeah if you if you guys want um and this

2735
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:46,800
will that mean that means you guys heard

2736
01:38:50,470 --> 01:38:49,360
joe ben you guys gotta bring him back

2737
01:38:51,990 --> 01:38:50,480
because i don't know about you guys but

2738
01:38:54,070 --> 01:38:52,000
i oh man i

2739
01:38:55,270 --> 01:38:54,080
i really wanted to dig into that second

2740
01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:55,280
event there

2741
01:39:00,550 --> 01:38:59,199
and hear it from his own words um how

2742
01:39:02,390 --> 01:39:00,560
what did you guys think by the way of

2743
01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:02,400
his his voice like just tell he's got

2744
01:39:06,229 --> 01:39:03,280
like the

2745
01:39:08,470 --> 01:39:06,239
perfect storytelling voice in my opinion

2746
01:39:11,189 --> 01:39:08,480
i still believe it will do man you can

2747
01:39:12,390 --> 01:39:11,199
say he's humble

2748
01:39:14,070 --> 01:39:12,400
now

2749
01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:14,080
really quickly without putting too much

2750
01:39:17,189 --> 01:39:15,520
of your information out there that the

2751
01:39:19,430 --> 01:39:17,199
last video you had kind of shared with

2752
01:39:21,030 --> 01:39:19,440
me that that was that was you one that

2753
01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:21,040
you personally were seeing right and

2754
01:39:26,229 --> 01:39:23,040
recording there

2755
01:39:28,390 --> 01:39:26,239
uh oh no i was uh i witnessed i didn't

2756
01:39:30,790 --> 01:39:28,400
record it no but i don't got something

2757
01:39:33,350 --> 01:39:30,800
yeah i'm actually uh i'm gonna hopefully

2758
01:39:34,629 --> 01:39:33,360
go visit the blessos this weekend

2759
01:39:36,550 --> 01:39:34,639
uh

2760
01:39:38,149 --> 01:39:36,560
yeah man if i can get anything recording

2761
01:39:39,189 --> 01:39:38,159
myself i'll be sure to share it with you

2762
01:39:41,030 --> 01:39:39,199
first

2763
01:39:43,270 --> 01:39:41,040
oh yeah yeah it's worrious it just

2764
01:39:45,910 --> 01:39:43,280
hasn't been so easy for me to get these

2765
01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:45,920
things on camera myself but um i mean

2766
01:39:49,189 --> 01:39:47,440
i'm definitely seeing them and other

2767
01:39:50,470 --> 01:39:49,199
people see them with me

2768
01:39:52,709 --> 01:39:50,480
and uh it's

2769
01:39:55,030 --> 01:39:52,719
it's just crazy well let's hit on that

2770
01:39:56,149 --> 01:39:55,040
for a second because you and if you're

2771
01:39:57,270 --> 01:39:56,159
okay with this since we have a couple

2772
01:39:58,870 --> 01:39:57,280
minutes here to talk and the last time

2773
01:40:00,390 --> 01:39:58,880
you came on it was really rushed we

2774
01:40:01,830 --> 01:40:00,400
didn't expect as nearly many people as

2775
01:40:03,109 --> 01:40:01,840
we ended up getting that night i felt

2776
01:40:03,910 --> 01:40:03,119
bad i was crunching everybody's times

2777
01:40:05,830 --> 01:40:03,920
down

2778
01:40:07,910 --> 01:40:05,840
but you mentioned after being on here

2779
01:40:09,590 --> 01:40:07,920
with ben and joe not only did you start

2780
01:40:11,109 --> 01:40:09,600
seeing some orange but you briefly

2781
01:40:12,790 --> 01:40:11,119
mentioned if i'm not mistaken you said

2782
01:40:15,430 --> 01:40:12,800
that you had a kind of a shadow creature

2783
01:40:17,830 --> 01:40:15,440
entity encounter is that correct oh yeah

2784
01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:17,840
yeah that's something i've um

2785
01:40:21,990 --> 01:40:19,760
i'm still kind of trying to right man i

2786
01:40:23,430 --> 01:40:22,000
got it's crazy i got children you said

2787
01:40:25,030 --> 01:40:23,440
it i'm still trying to wrap my head

2788
01:40:27,990 --> 01:40:25,040
around that a little bit

2789
01:40:29,990 --> 01:40:28,000
um actually

2790
01:40:32,629 --> 01:40:30,000
i've got to respond to my email to move

2791
01:40:35,030 --> 01:40:32,639
on about this to be honest they've uh

2792
01:40:37,990 --> 01:40:35,040
been asking me about it it really do me

2793
01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:38,000
for a loop um i

2794
01:40:41,830 --> 01:40:40,560
it it's it's wrist real while and i know

2795
01:40:44,629 --> 01:40:41,840
a lot of people are gonna hear this and

2796
01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:44,639
think you know it's just [\h__\h] but

2797
01:40:49,830 --> 01:40:47,600
i see four orbs and um

2798
01:40:52,390 --> 01:40:49,840
what's weirder on top of that it kind of

2799
01:40:54,629 --> 01:40:52,400
links up with a weird premonition i had

2800
01:40:55,669 --> 01:40:54,639
with a dream

2801
01:40:57,590 --> 01:40:55,679
and um

2802
01:40:59,910 --> 01:40:57,600
i even had this document that i have a

2803
01:41:02,070 --> 01:40:59,920
screenshot of the original conversation

2804
01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:02,080
about the dream with the person's name

2805
01:41:05,750 --> 01:41:04,560
the fact i saw an orb the morning after

2806
01:41:06,950 --> 01:41:05,760
this stream

2807
01:41:08,950 --> 01:41:06,960
and uh

2808
01:41:11,270 --> 01:41:08,960
i sent this screenshot to chris bledsoe

2809
01:41:12,790 --> 01:41:11,280
senior and move on uh and they both have

2810
01:41:15,350 --> 01:41:12,800
this information

2811
01:41:16,709 --> 01:41:15,360
and then uh the same person from this

2812
01:41:18,709 --> 01:41:16,719
exact dream i'm not going to give out

2813
01:41:20,629 --> 01:41:18,719
her name she has a near-death experience

2814
01:41:23,750 --> 01:41:20,639
and calls me randomly i know this is a

2815
01:41:25,669 --> 01:41:23,760
little out there but um it's that night

2816
01:41:27,750 --> 01:41:25,679
it was the night after my first podcast

2817
01:41:31,270 --> 01:41:27,760
with ben and joe really i see four orbs

2818
01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:31,280
and i go to lay down and it's like this

2819
01:41:36,229 --> 01:41:33,760
it looks solid but like a shadow

2820
01:41:38,390 --> 01:41:36,239
figure type thing

2821
01:41:40,550 --> 01:41:38,400
going from my kitchen into my uh my

2822
01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:40,560
living room and uh

2823
01:41:44,310 --> 01:41:42,000
i mean i don't know how it's just how

2824
01:41:46,310 --> 01:41:44,320
it's to explain you i never heard about

2825
01:41:48,149 --> 01:41:46,320
shadow creatures until just recently

2826
01:41:49,750 --> 01:41:48,159
recently or whatever these things are

2827
01:41:52,870 --> 01:41:49,760
you know but um

2828
01:41:54,470 --> 01:41:52,880
it it really do me for a loop man and um

2829
01:41:56,629 --> 01:41:54,480
yeah i'm honestly getting chills right

2830
01:41:58,709 --> 01:41:56,639
now just talking about it but yeah it's

2831
01:42:00,790 --> 01:41:58,719
step on something

2832
01:42:03,510 --> 01:42:00,800
yeah no no worries and like i said i

2833
01:42:04,550 --> 01:42:03,520
never i always feel so um what's the

2834
01:42:07,030 --> 01:42:04,560
right term

2835
01:42:08,709 --> 01:42:07,040
i'm always curious but i also never want

2836
01:42:10,310 --> 01:42:08,719
any experience here in any capacity to

2837
01:42:11,590 --> 01:42:10,320
ever feel pressured right to share

2838
01:42:13,830 --> 01:42:11,600
anything because like we talked about

2839
01:42:14,950 --> 01:42:13,840
tonight um you know when you're when you

2840
01:42:16,310 --> 01:42:14,960
guys are sharing that for us you know

2841
01:42:18,149 --> 01:42:16,320
we're just hearing

2842
01:42:19,510 --> 01:42:18,159
an amazing exciting story or maybe

2843
01:42:20,709 --> 01:42:19,520
terrifying story but for you that's

2844
01:42:23,510 --> 01:42:20,719
something you've lived that's something

2845
01:42:25,350 --> 01:42:23,520
you've gone through that's not just

2846
01:42:26,390 --> 01:42:25,360
a story that's being run off a page this

2847
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:26,400
is something that's a part of you and

2848
01:42:30,629 --> 01:42:29,119
you've gone through now so um i never

2849
01:42:31,590 --> 01:42:30,639
want anybody to ever feel pressured but

2850
01:42:33,350 --> 01:42:31,600
obviously

2851
01:42:34,950 --> 01:42:33,360
you're always welcome anybody that's in

2852
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:34,960
the chat to share anything with

2853
01:42:38,149 --> 01:42:36,320
ben and joe always left that door wide

2854
01:42:39,590 --> 01:42:38,159
open for anybody to

2855
01:42:42,149 --> 01:42:39,600
feel free to share their experiences

2856
01:42:43,830 --> 01:42:42,159
without any sort of judgment you know

2857
01:42:45,189 --> 01:42:43,840
that comes with it because

2858
01:42:46,229 --> 01:42:45,199
kind of like what he said too it's funny

2859
01:42:47,910 --> 01:42:46,239
that people trying to get him to call

2860
01:42:49,510 --> 01:42:47,920
out travis walton like well did that or

2861
01:42:50,950 --> 01:42:49,520
not happen he's like you know i wasn't

2862
01:42:52,470 --> 01:42:50,960
there how are you gonna make me try to

2863
01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:52,480
make a judgment call on someone else's

2864
01:42:55,910 --> 01:42:54,400
experience you know

2865
01:42:57,430 --> 01:42:55,920
never understood people to do that too

2866
01:42:58,310 --> 01:42:57,440
much

2867
01:43:00,470 --> 01:42:58,320
um

2868
01:43:02,470 --> 01:43:00,480
but yeah i i'm glad you have those that

2869
01:43:04,390 --> 01:43:02,480
you're able to reach out the blessos to

2870
01:43:05,830 --> 01:43:04,400
me are some pretty amazing people who

2871
01:43:08,229 --> 01:43:05,840
have had some

2872
01:43:09,669 --> 01:43:08,239
absolutely extraordinary experiences and

2873
01:43:12,070 --> 01:43:09,679
and people i understand have a lot of

2874
01:43:13,750 --> 01:43:12,080
big opinions about them but

2875
01:43:15,590 --> 01:43:13,760
if nothing else

2876
01:43:17,030 --> 01:43:15,600
their experiences are their experiences

2877
01:43:20,310 --> 01:43:17,040
and i don't think we can take away from

2878
01:43:23,189 --> 01:43:21,590
yeah definitely i mean everything's

2879
01:43:25,990 --> 01:43:23,199
subjective to opinion but you know

2880
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:26,000
somebody's experiencing it and you know

2881
01:43:29,430 --> 01:43:27,840
they're interpreting their own way

2882
01:43:30,950 --> 01:43:29,440
whether people

2883
01:43:32,709 --> 01:43:30,960
agree with it or not you know i don't

2884
01:43:33,430 --> 01:43:32,719
believe that they're making this stuff

2885
01:43:34,870 --> 01:43:33,440
up

2886
01:43:36,629 --> 01:43:34,880
um right

2887
01:43:38,229 --> 01:43:36,639
it's uh

2888
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:38,239
you know like people are they're going

2889
01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:39,760
to try to piece it together in whatever

2890
01:43:44,950 --> 01:43:41,760
way makes the best sense to them

2891
01:43:46,550 --> 01:43:44,960
you know like um um calling something a

2892
01:43:48,149 --> 01:43:46,560
shadow creature somebody else might call

2893
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:48,159
it a demon somebody else might not think

2894
01:43:51,910 --> 01:43:49,600
it's anything bad at all you know who

2895
01:43:53,189 --> 01:43:51,920
knows what what it really is you know

2896
01:43:55,189 --> 01:43:53,199
right

2897
01:43:58,629 --> 01:43:55,199
and if nothing else

2898
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:00,310
i guess too with all the stuff that's

2899
01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:04,000
one thing that has bothered me um

2900
01:44:08,149 --> 01:44:06,400
so melissa here nicole said

2901
01:44:09,910 --> 01:44:08,159
i don't know she's been she's if you see

2902
01:44:12,390 --> 01:44:09,920
oh man dang it why would i even try that

2903
01:44:14,390 --> 01:44:12,400
word i know i can't say that word and my

2904
01:44:16,790 --> 01:44:14,400
my mind was willing but the

2905
01:44:19,750 --> 01:44:16,800
the body was not able on that one

2906
01:44:22,070 --> 01:44:19,760
but she said i have brought home a

2907
01:44:24,149 --> 01:44:22,080
uh who knows now our melissa are we

2908
01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:24,159
saying that this was a legitimate shadow

2909
01:44:27,669 --> 01:44:25,600
creature that perhaps was the traveler

2910
01:44:29,030 --> 01:44:27,679
that followed you or or are we just uh

2911
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:29,040
going along with them playing there a

2912
01:44:32,790 --> 01:44:31,760
little bit hey you guys look at this

2913
01:44:35,109 --> 01:44:32,800
um

2914
01:44:36,709 --> 01:44:35,119
phil from the what if tomorrow media

2915
01:44:38,550 --> 01:44:36,719
podcast we're only known as the water

2916
01:44:40,790 --> 01:44:38,560
tomorrow podcast brothers so good to see

2917
01:44:43,030 --> 01:44:40,800
you it's been so long since we've uh

2918
01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:43,040
since we've had time to like catch up uh

2919
01:44:46,070 --> 01:44:44,800
if you want i can i can drop you a link

2920
01:44:47,189 --> 01:44:46,080
and maybe you can hop in and say hi

2921
01:44:48,550 --> 01:44:47,199
tonight we're just gonna be hanging out

2922
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:48,560
for a little bit we got an hour if we

2923
01:44:52,470 --> 01:44:50,880
need up to an hour and 15 minutes left

2924
01:44:53,990 --> 01:44:52,480
there's no pressure

2925
01:44:55,830 --> 01:44:54,000
i'm just gonna kind of do what we did

2926
01:44:56,870 --> 01:44:55,840
last week there where we we opened up

2927
01:44:58,390 --> 01:44:56,880
the door for some people to share a

2928
01:45:00,149 --> 01:44:58,400
little bit i know i think ben might be

2929
01:45:02,870 --> 01:45:00,159
getting on a little while here

2930
01:45:04,950 --> 01:45:02,880
um no she's okay so melissa says she's

2931
01:45:07,109 --> 01:45:04,960
being dead serious

2932
01:45:09,510 --> 01:45:07,119
uh melissa says she'll come on and tell

2933
01:45:10,870 --> 01:45:09,520
us about it sometimes well you know what

2934
01:45:11,830 --> 01:45:10,880
you know what the only time we promised

2935
01:45:14,709 --> 01:45:11,840
right

2936
01:45:17,030 --> 01:45:14,719
it's here now here now

2937
01:45:18,790 --> 01:45:17,040
the information about shadow people

2938
01:45:20,310 --> 01:45:18,800
whatever the hell the things are you

2939
01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:20,320
know i'd love to hear about it that's

2940
01:45:24,550 --> 01:45:22,560
something totally new to me to be honest

2941
01:45:26,629 --> 01:45:24,560
no i have no reason to make up any of

2942
01:45:28,830 --> 01:45:26,639
this if anything makes me look crazy so

2943
01:45:31,350 --> 01:45:28,840
like i'm open to hearing anything about

2944
01:45:33,590 --> 01:45:31,360
that very interesting

2945
01:45:35,189 --> 01:45:33,600
yeah um what i'll do is melissa i don't

2946
01:45:36,709 --> 01:45:35,199
think i obviously i don't have you on

2947
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:36,719
facebook or anything i don't think

2948
01:45:40,709 --> 01:45:38,800
there's a way i can like

2949
01:45:43,109 --> 01:45:40,719
shoot that private message but what i'll

2950
01:45:44,550 --> 01:45:43,119
do guys is i'll put the link in there uh

2951
01:45:47,510 --> 01:45:44,560
in the chat

2952
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:47,520
and then if if anybody wants to come out

2953
01:45:50,709 --> 01:45:48,560
and share

2954
01:45:52,070 --> 01:45:50,719
um depending on how many people we get

2955
01:45:54,149 --> 01:45:52,080
if anybody wants to share that i mean it

2956
01:45:56,070 --> 01:45:54,159
is halloween time we are it is devil's

2957
01:45:57,510 --> 01:45:56,080
night so if anybody wants to come on and

2958
01:45:59,590 --> 01:45:57,520
share any kind of i guess he doesn't

2959
01:46:00,950 --> 01:45:59,600
have to be creepy or anything like that

2960
01:46:02,950 --> 01:46:00,960
um

2961
01:46:03,830 --> 01:46:02,960
and like melissa said too for you there

2962
01:46:05,350 --> 01:46:03,840
uh

2963
01:46:07,030 --> 01:46:05,360
for you there joshua like she said oops

2964
01:46:08,629 --> 01:46:07,040
i share the wrong one chat moves fast

2965
01:46:10,950 --> 01:46:08,639
sometimes um you know like she said i

2966
01:46:12,790 --> 01:46:10,960
don't think you're crazy at all it's um

2967
01:46:13,830 --> 01:46:12,800
i and that's the thing i guess what i

2968
01:46:15,669 --> 01:46:13,840
was gonna say originally with with the

2969
01:46:17,990 --> 01:46:15,679
blessings and stuff is that

2970
01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:18,000
unless you've been there

2971
01:46:20,709 --> 01:46:19,520
how are you gonna make that call and we

2972
01:46:23,350 --> 01:46:20,719
all know like if you've seen something

2973
01:46:24,950 --> 01:46:23,360
right now anybody who's a skeptic right

2974
01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:24,960
or maybe you want to leave we all have

2975
01:46:28,149 --> 01:46:26,320
the shirt we all have the poster i want

2976
01:46:30,629 --> 01:46:28,159
to believe

2977
01:46:32,070 --> 01:46:30,639
even if you did finally see something

2978
01:46:34,629 --> 01:46:32,080
who would you really tell i'm going to

2979
01:46:36,070 --> 01:46:34,639
be honest there's only about four people

2980
01:46:37,350 --> 01:46:36,080
there's only about four people i know

2981
01:46:41,350 --> 01:46:37,360
that i would call up and be like you're

2982
01:46:42,870 --> 01:46:41,360
never gonna guess what happened

2983
01:46:44,229 --> 01:46:42,880
solely because

2984
01:46:45,830 --> 01:46:44,239
i feel like

2985
01:46:47,350 --> 01:46:45,840
i'd be the worst one for it to happen to

2986
01:46:49,350 --> 01:46:47,360
you because they're like oh we know you

2987
01:46:52,149 --> 01:46:49,360
guys are into into this stuff so of

2988
01:46:53,990 --> 01:46:52,159
course it happened to you you know

2989
01:46:55,590 --> 01:46:54,000
that's a i feel like how it would go

2990
01:46:57,030 --> 01:46:55,600
which is for yourself because you said

2991
01:46:58,790 --> 01:46:57,040
you were a bit of a skeptic it was that

2992
01:47:00,709 --> 01:46:58,800
where you were at with things until you

2993
01:47:02,709 --> 01:47:00,719
had some of these encounters

2994
01:47:03,830 --> 01:47:02,719
yeah no i was gonna say that's the thing

2995
01:47:06,390 --> 01:47:03,840
um

2996
01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:06,400
there's times where i feel like i kind

2997
01:47:09,189 --> 01:47:07,600
of wish

2998
01:47:11,350 --> 01:47:09,199
this ever did happen to me because i'd

2999
01:47:12,790 --> 01:47:11,360
be living normal life i was living

3000
01:47:13,590 --> 01:47:12,800
before i ever believed in any of this

3001
01:47:15,350 --> 01:47:13,600
stuff

3002
01:47:17,350 --> 01:47:15,360
but i mean uh that's that's kind of why

3003
01:47:18,870 --> 01:47:17,360
i asked you know calpinet early about

3004
01:47:20,790 --> 01:47:18,880
the whole you know

3005
01:47:23,350 --> 01:47:20,800
questioning position in reality because

3006
01:47:25,189 --> 01:47:23,360
it really makes you rethink everything

3007
01:47:26,310 --> 01:47:25,199
from history to

3008
01:47:28,310 --> 01:47:26,320
you know

3009
01:47:30,709 --> 01:47:28,320
theology just i mean literally

3010
01:47:32,709 --> 01:47:30,719
everything you're you know who you are

3011
01:47:34,470 --> 01:47:32,719
you know how you came to be just to me

3012
01:47:36,629 --> 01:47:34,480
that's at least what it what it made me

3013
01:47:38,470 --> 01:47:36,639
feel you know inside that's what i've

3014
01:47:41,109 --> 01:47:38,480
been feeling for the past year

3015
01:47:42,709 --> 01:47:41,119
is just this entire paradigm shift that

3016
01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:42,719
you go through whenever you really see

3017
01:47:45,109 --> 01:47:44,080
something that you know shouldn't be

3018
01:47:47,109 --> 01:47:45,119
possible

3019
01:47:48,149 --> 01:47:47,119
but it's in front of you

3020
01:47:49,830 --> 01:47:48,159
and um

3021
01:47:51,189 --> 01:47:49,840
yes that's the best why i can really say

3022
01:47:52,310 --> 01:47:51,199
it yeah

3023
01:47:53,830 --> 01:47:52,320
chronos

3024
01:47:55,669 --> 01:47:53,840
shared something here in the chat which

3025
01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:55,679
is interesting they said you can own and

3026
01:47:59,510 --> 01:47:57,600
they put kind of in quotation marks uh

3027
01:48:01,430 --> 01:47:59,520
the shadow creatures and take back

3028
01:48:03,030 --> 01:48:01,440
ownership of your space

3029
01:48:04,550 --> 01:48:03,040
very interesting

3030
01:48:05,990 --> 01:48:04,560
uh if you have any more on that kronos

3031
01:48:07,910 --> 01:48:06,000
do you mean like maybe

3032
01:48:09,830 --> 01:48:07,920
you just think this you just say hey you

3033
01:48:11,109 --> 01:48:09,840
don't have any right here or do do you

3034
01:48:12,709 --> 01:48:11,119
speak something out loud i wonder what

3035
01:48:14,229 --> 01:48:12,719
the process of that is

3036
01:48:15,590 --> 01:48:14,239
you know

3037
01:48:17,189 --> 01:48:15,600
because i'm sure you would feel pretty

3038
01:48:18,390 --> 01:48:17,199
violated i mean you had that experience

3039
01:48:20,390 --> 01:48:18,400
i mean there's something that's just

3040
01:48:21,910 --> 01:48:20,400
there if there's an entity

3041
01:48:23,669 --> 01:48:21,920
what do you do i mean i'm sure you

3042
01:48:25,109 --> 01:48:23,679
didn't sleep too well that that night if

3043
01:48:26,870 --> 01:48:25,119
it happened at night

3044
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:26,880
now really it's kind of crazy he said

3045
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:27,920
that uh

3046
01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:29,920
i mentioned this to like one person that

3047
01:48:33,590 --> 01:48:32,480
i know personally they told me to

3048
01:48:35,270 --> 01:48:33,600
you know because they're all into like

3049
01:48:37,270 --> 01:48:35,280
the high frequency stuff they say you

3050
01:48:38,870 --> 01:48:37,280
know like demanded you know like

3051
01:48:41,669 --> 01:48:38,880
they're pretty much trying to tell me to

3052
01:48:43,830 --> 01:48:41,679
keep like a high energy like a repellent

3053
01:48:45,350 --> 01:48:43,840
i guess against a low frequency being or

3054
01:48:47,030 --> 01:48:45,360
something like that and you know like i

3055
01:48:48,229 --> 01:48:47,040
thought stuff like this was nonsense a

3056
01:48:50,950 --> 01:48:48,239
year ago but

3057
01:48:53,109 --> 01:48:50,960
now i'm experiencing so you know i'm

3058
01:48:54,149 --> 01:48:53,119
i'm trying to keep that in mind and i've

3059
01:48:55,830 --> 01:48:54,159
had any

3060
01:48:57,910 --> 01:48:55,840
kind of experiences like that freaking

3061
01:48:59,350 --> 01:48:57,920
out so far you know um

3062
01:49:01,510 --> 01:48:59,360
you know since then

3063
01:49:03,510 --> 01:49:01,520
i mean i think you know the whole uh

3064
01:49:04,550 --> 01:49:03,520
seeing the lights in the skies started

3065
01:49:05,910 --> 01:49:04,560
got

3066
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:05,920
or started to get a little cool to me

3067
01:49:09,109 --> 01:49:07,440
you know i'm getting excited about it

3068
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:09,119
but as far as seeing something or

3069
01:49:12,709 --> 01:49:11,040
running through my my home where i live

3070
01:49:14,709 --> 01:49:12,719
you know that's a little bit on the

3071
01:49:16,470 --> 01:49:14,719
freaky side you know so

3072
01:49:18,390 --> 01:49:16,480
yeah i'm definitely i keep keep

3073
01:49:20,470 --> 01:49:18,400
everything in mind you know

3074
01:49:23,510 --> 01:49:20,480
well it's it's a whole other step it's

3075
01:49:25,270 --> 01:49:23,520
no longer something that's just a

3076
01:49:27,189 --> 01:49:25,280
you know maybe floating around in the

3077
01:49:28,790 --> 01:49:27,199
sky or on the like this is something

3078
01:49:30,310 --> 01:49:28,800
that's very personal it's it's right

3079
01:49:32,229 --> 01:49:30,320
here in your home what are you supposed

3080
01:49:34,390 --> 01:49:32,239
to do about that you know

3081
01:49:36,709 --> 01:49:34,400
and and i i don't know i guess

3082
01:49:38,390 --> 01:49:36,719
even with the orbs though have it not if

3083
01:49:39,750 --> 01:49:38,400
it was your case but we know experiences

3084
01:49:41,910 --> 01:49:39,760
where people have had it right in their

3085
01:49:44,229 --> 01:49:41,920
home have you had that same similar

3086
01:49:47,350 --> 01:49:44,239
experience where it was back to you

3087
01:49:49,750 --> 01:49:47,360
no i haven't had him in my home but i

3088
01:49:51,430 --> 01:49:49,760
i don't mean to get onto the blood cells

3089
01:49:53,830 --> 01:49:51,440
because i do know them personally but uh

3090
01:49:54,950 --> 01:49:53,840
he has told me about one popping up in

3091
01:49:58,070 --> 01:49:54,960
his home

3092
01:49:59,510 --> 01:49:58,080
um literally uh something that ryan was

3093
01:50:01,830 --> 01:49:59,520
actually telling me about i think ryan's

3094
01:50:03,990 --> 01:50:01,840
been on your show about

3095
01:50:05,910 --> 01:50:04,000
some guy kind of made like a real subtle

3096
01:50:07,350 --> 01:50:05,920
threat to them and whenever they did

3097
01:50:08,709 --> 01:50:07,360
like a war popped up behind the guy's

3098
01:50:10,870 --> 01:50:08,719
head and they all heard that story and

3099
01:50:13,750 --> 01:50:10,880
the guy like bolton of the house

3100
01:50:15,830 --> 01:50:13,760
um i'mma had them inside my home but i

3101
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:15,840
have i mentioned talking to ben and joe

3102
01:50:20,070 --> 01:50:17,440
like literally right above my balcony

3103
01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:20,080
two times you know solo where the uh the

3104
01:50:25,510 --> 01:50:23,040
flash where they dematerialize

3105
01:50:27,030 --> 01:50:25,520
i could see on the bottom of the clouds

3106
01:50:28,550 --> 01:50:27,040
and um

3107
01:50:30,070 --> 01:50:28,560
you know

3108
01:50:31,350 --> 01:50:30,080
i don't know to me that's something

3109
01:50:32,709 --> 01:50:31,360
that's uh

3110
01:50:34,390 --> 01:50:32,719
and i mean like i said earlier maybe the

3111
01:50:37,510 --> 01:50:34,400
shadow people aren't anything bad at all

3112
01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:37,520
i have no idea but um to me whenever i

3113
01:50:41,109 --> 01:50:39,040
was seeing the olds in the sky you know

3114
01:50:42,709 --> 01:50:41,119
it was giving me more like the oh my god

3115
01:50:45,350 --> 01:50:42,719
this is actually really beautiful kind

3116
01:50:47,510 --> 01:50:45,360
of incredible thing but just uh

3117
01:50:48,950 --> 01:50:47,520
seeing it see in my home like known you

3118
01:50:50,310 --> 01:50:48,960
know vulnerable there i think that's

3119
01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:50,320
what kind of give me the freak factor

3120
01:50:56,870 --> 01:50:53,840
about everything yeah

3121
01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:56,880
yeah uh well really quick um

3122
01:51:01,750 --> 01:50:58,400
i love this we got another guest

3123
01:51:04,709 --> 01:51:01,760
backstage here it's uh it's sunny from

3124
01:51:06,229 --> 01:51:04,719
the paranormal chop shop or as of as of

3125
01:51:09,270 --> 01:51:06,239
yesterday and now the people have seen

3126
01:51:15,830 --> 01:51:09,280
him on the round table aka

3127
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:23,750
how's it going guys

3128
01:51:28,149 --> 01:51:26,149
that's something about that fishing

3129
01:51:30,629 --> 01:51:28,159
which is the same thing with you right

3130
01:51:31,910 --> 01:51:30,639
josh you you were fishing yeah yeah my

3131
01:51:33,589 --> 01:51:31,920
favorite

3132
01:51:35,189 --> 01:51:33,599
my very first experience yeah i was

3133
01:51:36,950 --> 01:51:35,199
fishing with uh

3134
01:51:38,149 --> 01:51:36,960
i'm not going to say his name people can

3135
01:51:39,750 --> 01:51:38,159
link it together though he's the same

3136
01:51:40,629 --> 01:51:39,760
person i have my near-death experience

3137
01:51:42,470 --> 01:51:40,639
with

3138
01:51:44,470 --> 01:51:42,480
um like 10 years ago but it was like

3139
01:51:46,390 --> 01:51:44,480
five years ago me and him at the cape

3140
01:51:48,870 --> 01:51:46,400
fear river and um

3141
01:51:50,310 --> 01:51:48,880
it looks like a brighter star in the sky

3142
01:51:51,350 --> 01:51:50,320
and he points it out whenever we get

3143
01:51:54,070 --> 01:51:51,360
there

3144
01:51:55,510 --> 01:51:54,080
and uh i think i even joked about i said

3145
01:51:57,510 --> 01:51:55,520
you know that's probably [\h__\h] venus

3146
01:51:59,109 --> 01:51:57,520
you know so we keep fishing in like 30

3147
01:52:00,149 --> 01:51:59,119
minutes later i'm talking they like mid

3148
01:52:01,990 --> 01:52:00,159
sentence

3149
01:52:03,669 --> 01:52:02,000
no [\h__\h] this thing is sitting in one

3150
01:52:05,589 --> 01:52:03,679
spot and it just curves off in like a

3151
01:52:07,910 --> 01:52:05,599
backwards seat motion but i mean like

3152
01:52:10,229 --> 01:52:07,920
the blink of an eye and i freeze mid

3153
01:52:11,990 --> 01:52:10,239
sentence and i can remember perfectly my

3154
01:52:13,030 --> 01:52:12,000
friend just goes like dude just [\h__\h]

3155
01:52:13,990 --> 01:52:13,040
see that

3156
01:52:18,629 --> 01:52:14,000
and

3157
01:52:20,229 --> 01:52:18,639
exactly what i saw i'm like are you

3158
01:52:21,669 --> 01:52:20,239
serious and he's like yeah man i started

3159
01:52:22,709 --> 01:52:21,679
curving shut off

3160
01:52:24,790 --> 01:52:22,719
and you know

3161
01:52:27,109 --> 01:52:24,800
it still trips me out to this day but

3162
01:52:29,030 --> 01:52:27,119
for like for the past five years i kept

3163
01:52:30,950 --> 01:52:29,040
this in the back of my mind even though

3164
01:52:33,189 --> 01:52:30,960
baffled me and it wasn't until this year

3165
01:52:35,350 --> 01:52:33,199
when i saw the pentagon uap reports on

3166
01:52:37,510 --> 01:52:35,360
the news that switches like flipped to

3167
01:52:38,870 --> 01:52:37,520
my head you know like holy [\h__\h] that's

3168
01:52:40,870 --> 01:52:38,880
actually real

3169
01:52:43,270 --> 01:52:40,880
uh yeah that's that's really how i got

3170
01:52:45,990 --> 01:52:43,280
into this to be honest

3171
01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:46,000
yeah that's that's with uh

3172
01:52:49,350 --> 01:52:47,440
me and my cousin

3173
01:52:50,870 --> 01:52:49,360
uh papa willy the guy in the chat you

3174
01:52:53,270 --> 01:52:50,880
see in there josh

3175
01:52:55,430 --> 01:52:53,280
we uh yeah that's all you are

3176
01:52:57,830 --> 01:52:55,440
yeah we were fishing and we've seen

3177
01:52:59,589 --> 01:52:57,840
stuff fishing that we actually called in

3178
01:53:01,830 --> 01:52:59,599
and told our star i told the story on

3179
01:53:03,030 --> 01:53:01,840
the show

3180
01:53:05,830 --> 01:53:03,040
but yeah

3181
01:53:09,350 --> 01:53:07,350
what do you see

3182
01:53:12,629 --> 01:53:09,360
uh oh that was when i told him about the

3183
01:53:15,270 --> 01:53:12,639
lights we we seen some lights in the sky

3184
01:53:16,629 --> 01:53:15,280
just like a light bar turned on and then

3185
01:53:19,109 --> 01:53:16,639
turned off looked like someone was

3186
01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:19,119
taking a picture of you but a really big

3187
01:53:23,030 --> 01:53:21,040
huge light bar in the sky

3188
01:53:24,950 --> 01:53:23,040
and at first

3189
01:53:26,629 --> 01:53:24,960
papa willie didn't see it and he asked

3190
01:53:28,390 --> 01:53:26,639
me if i took a picture of him with the

3191
01:53:30,310 --> 01:53:28,400
phone and i said no

3192
01:53:31,750 --> 01:53:30,320
no man i don't know what that was i told

3193
01:53:33,510 --> 01:53:31,760
him i've never seen anything like that

3194
01:53:35,270 --> 01:53:33,520
before

3195
01:53:37,430 --> 01:53:35,280
and then i was trying to explain it to

3196
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:37,440
him and i couldn't and then about wasn't

3197
01:53:41,750 --> 01:53:39,040
very much longer later we were both

3198
01:53:44,470 --> 01:53:41,760
fishing this time this facing the same

3199
01:53:46,470 --> 01:53:44,480
direction okay and

3200
01:53:47,830 --> 01:53:46,480
it would have went off back here behind

3201
01:53:49,910 --> 01:53:47,840
him the last time

3202
01:53:52,149 --> 01:53:49,920
this time i'm facing the same way as him

3203
01:53:54,390 --> 01:53:52,159
and he had moved around in front of us

3204
01:53:56,310 --> 01:53:54,400
so it went off directly in front of us

3205
01:53:57,270 --> 01:53:56,320
just a real bright light it was so

3206
01:53:58,950 --> 01:53:57,280
bright

3207
01:54:00,390 --> 01:53:58,960
your first instinct was to look down

3208
01:54:02,070 --> 01:54:00,400
because it's it's that bright it's like

3209
01:54:04,470 --> 01:54:02,080
you're staring at the sun but when we

3210
01:54:05,750 --> 01:54:04,480
looked down this time it reflected out

3211
01:54:07,750 --> 01:54:05,760
of the water because it was over the

3212
01:54:09,510 --> 01:54:07,760
water this time so it was there was no

3213
01:54:10,390 --> 01:54:09,520
looking away from it when when we looked

3214
01:54:11,589 --> 01:54:10,400
down

3215
01:54:13,589 --> 01:54:11,599
really bright and then i told them

3216
01:54:14,950 --> 01:54:13,599
that's what that was

3217
01:54:17,430 --> 01:54:14,960
but yeah

3218
01:54:18,950 --> 01:54:17,440
it sounded like yes i was on it then

3219
01:54:20,870 --> 01:54:18,960
i don't yeah it was big it was

3220
01:54:22,629 --> 01:54:20,880
definitely a big bar of light but that's

3221
01:54:27,990 --> 01:54:22,639
all you could see was just a big bar of

3222
01:54:31,510 --> 01:54:29,750
which is pretty crazy because you know

3223
01:54:33,189 --> 01:54:31,520
how you hopped on with us briefly there

3224
01:54:34,550 --> 01:54:33,199
josh a couple nights ago which i really

3225
01:54:36,310 --> 01:54:34,560
appreciate i'm sorry

3226
01:54:38,229 --> 01:54:36,320
man was that two weeks ago when we did

3227
01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:38,239
the one with celine were we

3228
01:54:40,870 --> 01:54:39,280
no

3229
01:54:42,470 --> 01:54:40,880
what that was that was last week sorry

3230
01:54:43,750 --> 01:54:42,480
guys my days are getting all mixed up

3231
01:54:45,750 --> 01:54:43,760
but when you hop down you share that

3232
01:54:47,350 --> 01:54:45,760
story about your grandfather uh that is

3233
01:54:48,950 --> 01:54:47,360
pretty interesting yeah i know sonny

3234
01:54:50,070 --> 01:54:48,960
like you said you i don't know if you'd

3235
01:54:52,070 --> 01:54:50,080
want to say it or not i think you said

3236
01:54:53,350 --> 01:54:52,080
it live on air last time right tell them

3237
01:54:55,669 --> 01:54:53,360
on there and see what happens when i see

3238
01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:55,679
you next time

3239
01:54:59,589 --> 01:54:58,320
yeah i tear it up josh he can tell you

3240
01:55:14,870 --> 01:54:59,599
yeah

3241
01:55:16,229 --> 01:55:14,880
papa willie's papa that that

3242
01:55:17,350 --> 01:55:16,239
i could play you a tape of them you

3243
01:55:20,629 --> 01:55:17,360
wouldn't be able to tell those two men

3244
01:55:23,510 --> 01:55:20,639
apart they they sound exactly alike

3245
01:55:25,109 --> 01:55:23,520
oh really yeah i love his accent or just

3246
01:55:26,870 --> 01:55:25,119
actually i guess there's a little bit of

3247
01:55:28,790 --> 01:55:26,880
an accent but just his voice like i said

3248
01:55:30,310 --> 01:55:28,800
he has that perfect just i'm gonna sit

3249
01:55:31,830 --> 01:55:30,320
down and tell you a story the guy could

3250
01:55:33,189 --> 01:55:31,840
be reading the phone book like they used

3251
01:55:34,870 --> 01:55:33,199
to say i know we don't we don't do that

3252
01:55:36,550 --> 01:55:34,880
anymore but back when there were the

3253
01:55:37,589 --> 01:55:36,560
giant phone books right they used to say

3254
01:55:38,950 --> 01:55:37,599
he had a voice he could just read the

3255
01:55:41,350 --> 01:55:38,960
phone book and you'd want to listen to

3256
01:55:42,709 --> 01:55:41,360
him um but he's just so genuine did you

3257
01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:42,719
guys catch him when he was pissed off

3258
01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:44,239
with that chick that put his put her

3259
01:55:49,750 --> 01:55:45,520
finger down his throat did anybody else

3260
01:55:52,870 --> 01:55:51,270
that's why when he said the second time

3261
01:55:54,470 --> 01:55:52,880
he wasn't going peaceful i was like i

3262
01:55:56,950 --> 01:55:54,480
don't blame you after the first time

3263
01:55:57,990 --> 01:55:56,960
that's what i was thinking

3264
01:55:59,830 --> 01:55:58,000
i know

3265
01:56:02,629 --> 01:55:59,840
when he said she wasn't that bad looking

3266
01:56:03,750 --> 01:56:02,639
uh laughed out loud

3267
01:56:05,910 --> 01:56:03,760
that's what i'm saying that's someone

3268
01:56:07,430 --> 01:56:05,920
who just kept it so real you know and

3269
01:56:08,950 --> 01:56:07,440
like again some of these people have

3270
01:56:10,310 --> 01:56:08,960
told her i get it their stories hundreds

3271
01:56:12,470 --> 01:56:10,320
or thousands of times maybe some of the

3272
01:56:14,470 --> 01:56:12,480
really big ones and so perhaps they they

3273
01:56:16,950 --> 01:56:14,480
lose some of that um

3274
01:56:17,990 --> 01:56:16,960
i don't know

3275
01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:18,000
like

3276
01:56:22,790 --> 01:56:19,760
relatability just because it becomes

3277
01:56:25,030 --> 01:56:22,800
such a crisp clean you know way that

3278
01:56:27,189 --> 01:56:25,040
they share it but i love that he just

3279
01:56:29,750 --> 01:56:27,199
shared it as it was man he called it

3280
01:56:31,910 --> 01:56:29,760
like it was he wasn't he wasn't holding

3281
01:56:34,390 --> 01:56:31,920
back at all on that one

3282
01:56:35,750 --> 01:56:34,400
oh my gosh guys look we got here by the

3283
01:56:37,350 --> 01:56:35,760
way guys really quick for everybody who

3284
01:56:39,669 --> 01:56:37,360
might be wondering

3285
01:56:42,470 --> 01:56:39,679
uh if i ever do this sorry or do it down

3286
01:56:43,750 --> 01:56:42,480
here is that when we mention sus if you

3287
01:56:45,189 --> 01:56:43,760
see anybody saying that they're not

3288
01:56:46,950 --> 01:56:45,199
making fun of anybody in the chat just

3289
01:56:49,030 --> 01:56:46,960
everybody knows if you see someone put

3290
01:56:50,470 --> 01:56:49,040
or at least myself say kinda sus

3291
01:56:51,990 --> 01:56:50,480
it's just so that we can take a drink of

3292
01:56:53,189 --> 01:56:52,000
whatever we got going on tonight so just

3293
01:56:55,750 --> 01:56:53,199
so people know we're not we're not

3294
01:56:59,030 --> 01:56:55,760
poking fun at anybody at all over there

3295
01:57:02,950 --> 01:57:02,149
we have a a little known

3296
01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:02,960
uh

3297
01:57:09,189 --> 01:57:05,440
podcast here in the background sus from

3298
01:57:11,030 --> 01:57:09,199
509 yes sir right there drink and uh he

3299
01:57:12,870 --> 01:57:11,040
he wants to come on and and share some

3300
01:57:14,950 --> 01:57:12,880
of his experiences i guess that he has

3301
01:57:16,310 --> 01:57:14,960
tonight we never know what we're gonna

3302
01:57:18,790 --> 01:57:16,320
get with him so i always keep my finger

3303
01:57:21,750 --> 01:57:18,800
right over the remove button but

3304
01:57:23,350 --> 01:57:21,760
welcome to the to the show

3305
01:57:25,189 --> 01:57:23,360
um we don't always really know who it is

3306
01:57:26,629 --> 01:57:25,199
by the way uh because we only ever see

3307
01:57:28,310 --> 01:57:26,639
one at a time

3308
01:57:32,550 --> 01:57:28,320
this is the way

3309
01:57:34,950 --> 01:57:32,560
uh uh welcome mr mandalorian to the

3310
01:57:37,270 --> 01:57:34,960
hey uh

3311
01:57:39,669 --> 01:57:37,280
uh i've been trying to reach you about

3312
01:57:42,229 --> 01:57:39,679
uh your car's extended warranty

3313
01:57:44,950 --> 01:57:42,239
dang it removed right there done he's

3314
01:57:47,109 --> 01:57:44,960
out i forgot i tried i freaking found

3315
01:57:52,390 --> 01:57:47,119
you man just give up

3316
01:57:57,910 --> 01:57:55,109
oh god dude that was uh that was

3317
01:58:00,310 --> 01:57:58,870
uh

3318
01:58:02,550 --> 01:58:00,320
that was a last minute decision to put

3319
01:58:04,070 --> 01:58:02,560
that helmet on i'm just very proud of it

3320
01:58:05,350 --> 01:58:04,080
i dude that's why i held off i was about

3321
01:58:08,149 --> 01:58:05,360
to bring you i was like oh he's getting

3322
01:58:09,510 --> 01:58:08,159
something by the way yeah your outfit

3323
01:58:11,270 --> 01:58:09,520
that you guys pulled together pretty

3324
01:58:13,109 --> 01:58:11,280
awesome by the way following the baby

3325
01:58:15,430 --> 01:58:13,119
the wife and everything great way to go

3326
01:58:18,790 --> 01:58:15,440
with it thanks man i mean nothing

3327
01:58:21,830 --> 01:58:18,800
nothing top sonny's though dude

3328
01:58:23,990 --> 01:58:21,840
like he texted me a couple days ago with

3329
01:58:29,189 --> 01:58:24,000
a photo and i'm like no

3330
01:58:34,709 --> 01:58:32,229
when i first jumped on

3331
01:58:37,270 --> 01:58:34,719
dude and like dave's uh reaction was

3332
01:58:39,750 --> 01:58:37,280
priceless like oh he was speechless that

3333
01:58:41,750 --> 01:58:39,760
was so funny dude i loved it

3334
01:58:43,669 --> 01:58:41,760
like that's like the pinnacle right like

3335
01:58:44,950 --> 01:58:43,679
if anybody dresses up as you like that's

3336
01:58:47,510 --> 01:58:44,960
like the most

3337
01:58:50,149 --> 01:58:47,520
i don't know it's awesome you know

3338
01:58:51,589 --> 01:58:50,159
that that was that was badass sunny he

3339
01:58:53,270 --> 01:58:51,599
crushed it

3340
01:58:54,790 --> 01:58:53,280
that's what me and uh lady anne were

3341
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:54,800
talking about i told that's that's how

3342
01:58:58,470 --> 01:58:56,400
i'm looking at it if someone dressed up

3343
01:59:00,629 --> 01:58:58,480
as me as for halloween dude that that's

3344
01:59:02,870 --> 01:59:00,639
that's it you've done it you know people

3345
01:59:05,350 --> 01:59:02,880
are dressing up as you yeah

3346
01:59:06,950 --> 01:59:05,360
i i loved how you said it you were like

3347
01:59:09,350 --> 01:59:06,960
halloween you dressed up as heroes your

3348
01:59:11,589 --> 01:59:09,360
hero and you know i mean he's a hero of

3349
01:59:12,950 --> 01:59:11,599
mine too man so

3350
01:59:14,709 --> 01:59:12,960
i uh

3351
01:59:15,990 --> 01:59:14,719
if you didn't really like

3352
01:59:17,830 --> 01:59:16,000
i guess from the outside looking in

3353
01:59:19,750 --> 01:59:17,840
you're like wait hold on wait

3354
01:59:21,990 --> 01:59:19,760
who is who who is who because it looks

3355
01:59:23,750 --> 01:59:22,000
so much like it it was crazy

3356
01:59:26,790 --> 01:59:23,760
and and you went the uh the extra mile

3357
01:59:27,669 --> 01:59:26,800
too though did you did you dye the the

3358
01:59:28,790 --> 01:59:27,679
beard

3359
01:59:32,470 --> 01:59:28,800
yeah and i don't think some of that

3360
01:59:35,589 --> 01:59:34,310
yeah blame it up blame it on that dude

3361
01:59:37,109 --> 01:59:35,599
for sure

3362
01:59:41,430 --> 01:59:37,119
that's what it is

3363
01:59:47,510 --> 01:59:43,189
yeah i'm not going gray it was that one

3364
01:59:50,310 --> 01:59:47,520
time during halloween bro i promise

3365
01:59:51,430 --> 01:59:50,320
oh man but uh dude uh

3366
01:59:53,510 --> 01:59:51,440
william

3367
01:59:58,390 --> 01:59:53,520
great job great job that is this is very

3368
02:00:02,950 --> 02:00:00,550
no thank you

3369
02:00:05,750 --> 02:00:02,960
ben for even giving me the opportunity

3370
02:00:07,430 --> 02:00:05,760
to hang out with you guys and help

3371
02:00:09,669 --> 02:00:07,440
other people share their experiences and

3372
02:00:10,709 --> 02:00:09,679
be part of the garage honestly i do i

3373
02:00:12,310 --> 02:00:10,719
know you and i've talked to us before

3374
02:00:14,790 --> 02:00:12,320
remember when i was so scared to message

3375
02:00:16,070 --> 02:00:14,800
you like two years ago to be like just

3376
02:00:17,350 --> 02:00:16,080
to mention you guys on our show it's

3377
02:00:18,790 --> 02:00:17,360
like the second episode my brother and i

3378
02:00:20,070 --> 02:00:18,800
ever did again i'm like hey can i just

3379
02:00:21,990 --> 02:00:20,080
give you guys a shout out because we're

3380
02:00:25,109 --> 02:00:22,000
gonna do our ufo episode yeah that i

3381
02:00:28,229 --> 02:00:25,119
wrote like a 186 page email for

3382
02:00:30,470 --> 02:00:28,239
so bad dude that was honestly like i'll

3383
02:00:31,990 --> 02:00:30,480
say this every time what what's our best

3384
02:00:33,189 --> 02:00:32,000
what's you know if somebody says like

3385
02:00:35,030 --> 02:00:33,199
what's your some of your favorite

3386
02:00:37,109 --> 02:00:35,040
episodes and that is always one of them

3387
02:00:38,070 --> 02:00:37,119
is is the uh

3388
02:00:40,390 --> 02:00:38,080
the

3389
02:00:41,669 --> 02:00:40,400
loft pass incident

3390
02:00:43,910 --> 02:00:41,679
was that the first one that you guys

3391
02:00:45,270 --> 02:00:43,920
were on with us i feel like it was right

3392
02:00:46,709 --> 02:00:45,280
that was the first one we were on your

3393
02:00:48,870 --> 02:00:46,719
show you guys came over with us when we

3394
02:00:51,350 --> 02:00:48,880
did the murray island incident oh yeah

3395
02:00:53,109 --> 02:00:51,360
12 i believe it was for us and then for

3396
02:00:53,910 --> 02:00:53,119
you guys yeah i was like man that was

3397
02:00:54,950 --> 02:00:53,920
like

3398
02:00:56,870 --> 02:00:54,960
20s

3399
02:00:59,510 --> 02:00:56,880
we didn't we didn't know [\h__\h] about the

3400
02:01:01,669 --> 02:00:59,520
mario legends was the best thing ever i

3401
02:01:02,790 --> 02:01:01,679
was so stoked not not that ben and joe

3402
02:01:04,550 --> 02:01:02,800
don't know their stuff but i thought

3403
02:01:05,830 --> 02:01:04,560
they knew everything i thought these

3404
02:01:08,790 --> 02:01:05,840
guys were like

3405
02:01:11,030 --> 02:01:08,800
dude they just had everything memorized

3406
02:01:13,030 --> 02:01:11,040
if i have any question they have the

3407
02:01:14,229 --> 02:01:13,040
answers and we brought them on

3408
02:01:16,470 --> 02:01:14,239
and we kind of brought up like the

3409
02:01:19,109 --> 02:01:16,480
murray island incident is known but yeah

3410
02:01:20,870 --> 02:01:19,119
all the details aren't as known i guess

3411
02:01:23,270 --> 02:01:20,880
i just brought them on i was like we got

3412
02:01:26,149 --> 02:01:23,280
ben and joe ufo garage all right guys

3413
02:01:29,030 --> 02:01:26,159
tell us everything and then

3414
02:01:30,550 --> 02:01:29,040
i mean dude yeah

3415
02:01:32,390 --> 02:01:30,560
we didn't know [\h__\h] i mean i feel like

3416
02:01:33,270 --> 02:01:32,400
we know a little bit more but like

3417
02:01:36,950 --> 02:01:33,280
uh

3418
02:01:40,790 --> 02:01:38,470
the fun thing about it is like we're all

3419
02:01:43,430 --> 02:01:40,800
on this journey together right like [\h__\h]

3420
02:01:46,149 --> 02:01:43,440
i definitely learned more since i mean

3421
02:01:49,109 --> 02:01:46,159
do it like just talking to you guys and

3422
02:01:51,189 --> 02:01:49,119
and doing the show but um

3423
02:01:54,950 --> 02:01:51,199
the the best questions and stuff that i

3424
02:01:58,070 --> 02:01:54,960
love to learn is experiencer experiencer

3425
02:02:00,629 --> 02:01:58,080
and uh i mean tonight you guys

3426
02:02:04,709 --> 02:02:00,639
those questions were awesome uh talking

3427
02:02:07,669 --> 02:02:04,719
to calvin that was that was amazing bro

3428
02:02:09,109 --> 02:02:07,679
i was i was just excited that when when

3429
02:02:10,390 --> 02:02:09,119
we touched base because i knew he'd had

3430
02:02:12,310 --> 02:02:10,400
a rough year

3431
02:02:13,669 --> 02:02:12,320
and honestly did not think he was going

3432
02:02:15,990 --> 02:02:13,679
to respond i'm not even going to lie

3433
02:02:17,589 --> 02:02:16,000
like when i sent that one out i was like

3434
02:02:19,750 --> 02:02:17,599
i'm going to shoot my shot you know like

3435
02:02:21,270 --> 02:02:19,760
yolo here we go like whatever i'll throw

3436
02:02:24,470 --> 02:02:21,280
one out there and he responded i was

3437
02:02:26,550 --> 02:02:24,480
like what no way yeah dude uh

3438
02:02:29,510 --> 02:02:26,560
what didn't happen what an epic like

3439
02:02:31,189 --> 02:02:29,520
part of history uh you made happen dude

3440
02:02:32,470 --> 02:02:31,199
and yeah that was freaking awesome so

3441
02:02:33,830 --> 02:02:32,480
what do y'all think about that second

3442
02:02:35,270 --> 02:02:33,840
part

3443
02:02:37,830 --> 02:02:35,280
like

3444
02:02:40,310 --> 02:02:37,840
man i gotta go back and re-watch it

3445
02:02:43,030 --> 02:02:42,070
yes

3446
02:02:48,950 --> 02:02:43,040
i wanna

3447
02:02:50,629 --> 02:02:48,960
sounded like i mean he's been you know

3448
02:02:52,709 --> 02:02:50,639
working out and just i mean he sounded

3449
02:02:54,790 --> 02:02:52,719
great dude i don't know what

3450
02:02:55,910 --> 02:02:54,800
i did not know that he was uh going

3451
02:02:57,830 --> 02:02:55,920
through some

3452
02:02:59,030 --> 02:02:57,840
some [\h__\h] yeah

3453
02:03:02,550 --> 02:02:59,040
hard times

3454
02:03:04,149 --> 02:03:02,560
yeah yeah but [\h__\h] dude he he crushed it

3455
02:03:05,910 --> 02:03:04,159
and uh dude that was that was a great

3456
02:03:07,830 --> 02:03:05,920
episode bro i've been watching just

3457
02:03:10,390 --> 02:03:07,840
doing dad duty and just let's put the

3458
02:03:12,830 --> 02:03:10,400
little one down so i'm dead

3459
02:03:15,109 --> 02:03:12,840
that's why i'm like judy

3460
02:03:16,390 --> 02:03:15,119
dude see that's how long we can last

3461
02:03:18,229 --> 02:03:16,400
that's how mature we are when we get

3462
02:03:19,270 --> 02:03:18,239
together right like when we're separate

3463
02:03:20,790 --> 02:03:19,280
i think that people are like man these

3464
02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:20,800
guys are pretty good but like we get

3465
02:03:26,830 --> 02:03:22,080
together

3466
02:03:31,830 --> 02:03:28,629
yeah

3467
02:03:33,270 --> 02:03:31,840
whole what did you think of that second

3468
02:03:34,709 --> 02:03:33,280
part though like

3469
02:03:36,390 --> 02:03:34,719
were you expecting him to say we were

3470
02:03:37,990 --> 02:03:36,400
bashing each other against the wall and

3471
02:03:39,510 --> 02:03:38,000
[\h__\h] yeah that's what i was going to say

3472
02:03:41,189 --> 02:03:39,520
i'm like you i want to hear the whole

3473
02:03:42,870 --> 02:03:41,199
fight story now i want to hear what

3474
02:03:44,550 --> 02:03:42,880
happened i want to hear how it started

3475
02:03:46,870 --> 02:03:44,560
and how it ended

3476
02:03:49,030 --> 02:03:46,880
because he said basically they ended

3477
02:03:51,830 --> 02:03:49,040
with him being put back in the boat well

3478
02:03:58,149 --> 02:03:51,840
it sounds like they gave up they didn't

3479
02:04:00,629 --> 02:03:59,510
i jumped right back in here and him

3480
02:04:02,790 --> 02:04:00,639
saying something about his head was

3481
02:04:05,189 --> 02:04:02,800
bleeding and i'm like one of them they

3482
02:04:05,990 --> 02:04:05,199
were both bleeding yeah

3483
02:04:07,430 --> 02:04:06,000
josh

3484
02:04:10,550 --> 02:04:07,440
was it you that was asking about like

3485
02:04:11,430 --> 02:04:10,560
did he have any any any dreams um i

3486
02:04:13,430 --> 02:04:11,440
might

3487
02:04:15,510 --> 02:04:13,440
okay so i was curious about that too i

3488
02:04:16,709 --> 02:04:15,520
was hoping he may did he answer that

3489
02:04:19,510 --> 02:04:16,719
because i was kind of in and out like

3490
02:04:21,430 --> 02:04:19,520
holding baby you know

3491
02:04:24,390 --> 02:04:21,440
yeah

3492
02:04:25,910 --> 02:04:24,400
so so did he did he remember any any

3493
02:04:27,910 --> 02:04:25,920
dreams at all or

3494
02:04:29,510 --> 02:04:27,920
as far as the first experience of the

3495
02:04:30,629 --> 02:04:29,520
second experience yeah the first

3496
02:04:32,470 --> 02:04:30,639
experience

3497
02:04:33,510 --> 02:04:32,480
did he answer answer the question or the

3498
02:04:35,589 --> 02:04:33,520
first experience he remembered

3499
02:04:38,069 --> 02:04:35,599
everything there was never any he's one

3500
02:04:40,390 --> 02:04:38,079
of the enigmas as it were in the the

3501
02:04:42,790 --> 02:04:40,400
ufology cases or abduction cases where

3502
02:04:44,550 --> 02:04:42,800
there was no removal of memory there was

3503
02:04:45,669 --> 02:04:44,560
no i don't know if they forgot maybe it

3504
02:04:46,709 --> 02:04:45,679
was like the first day in their job and

3505
02:04:48,709 --> 02:04:46,719
they're like

3506
02:04:50,149 --> 02:04:48,719
man i'm crushing this and they like

3507
02:04:52,310 --> 02:04:50,159
everything else perfect except for like

3508
02:04:53,910 --> 02:04:52,320
oh i shoved my fingers down your throat

3509
02:04:57,669 --> 02:04:53,920
and made you bleed like and then i'm

3510
02:04:59,109 --> 02:04:57,679
like doing me no harm sorry

3511
02:05:00,550 --> 02:04:59,119
that's making like light of it but like

3512
02:05:02,069 --> 02:05:00,560
at the same time in my head i'm like

3513
02:05:04,709 --> 02:05:02,079
it's very it's like it was like it was

3514
02:05:06,709 --> 02:05:04,719
the first first day right like i mean it

3515
02:05:07,750 --> 02:05:06,719
seems like why don't you forgot to erase

3516
02:05:09,990 --> 02:05:07,760
his memory

3517
02:05:11,350 --> 02:05:10,000
so dude

3518
02:05:13,910 --> 02:05:11,360
will you bring up a good point dude i

3519
02:05:15,910 --> 02:05:13,920
think it was this exact scenario or this

3520
02:05:18,550 --> 02:05:15,920
uh case uh that me and joe did an

3521
02:05:20,550 --> 02:05:18,560
episode about a while back and my

3522
02:05:21,910 --> 02:05:20,560
analogy that i came up with

3523
02:05:24,709 --> 02:05:21,920
was this i

3524
02:05:26,550 --> 02:05:24,719
i took a field trip in college to one of

3525
02:05:28,149 --> 02:05:26,560
my professors barn where we like made

3526
02:05:30,870 --> 02:05:28,159
some shadow wood it was like super

3527
02:05:33,510 --> 02:05:30,880
austin art school kind of stuff and it's

3528
02:05:34,870 --> 02:05:33,520
freezing cold i've got gloves on and i'm

3529
02:05:36,550 --> 02:05:34,880
looking for pieces of wood it's like

3530
02:05:38,550 --> 02:05:36,560
this broken down bar i'm looking for

3531
02:05:40,790 --> 02:05:38,560
like reclaimed wood and stuff i find

3532
02:05:42,229 --> 02:05:40,800
this piece and i lift it up off of the

3533
02:05:45,270 --> 02:05:42,239
ground and there's like hay and like

3534
02:05:47,189 --> 02:05:45,280
grass and stuff and i see like a family

3535
02:05:49,189 --> 02:05:47,199
of little tiny cute mice that are

3536
02:05:51,350 --> 02:05:49,199
sleeping in this little tin that's

3537
02:05:53,830 --> 02:05:51,360
underneath this block of wood

3538
02:05:56,950 --> 02:05:53,840
and my dumbass tries to pick one up dude

3539
02:05:58,709 --> 02:05:56,960
and my hands are freezing and i i was

3540
02:06:00,310 --> 02:05:58,719
just so fascinated but i just wanted to

3541
02:06:02,870 --> 02:06:00,320
see like are they alive like whatever i

3542
02:06:04,870 --> 02:06:02,880
just can't i pick up animals i love

3543
02:06:08,069 --> 02:06:04,880
animals so i picked up this little baby

3544
02:06:10,550 --> 02:06:08,079
mouse and i squeezed it too hard dude

3545
02:06:11,589 --> 02:06:10,560
i still have nightmares about that like

3546
02:06:15,910 --> 02:06:11,599
and

3547
02:06:16,790 --> 02:06:15,920
feel so bad i'm like dude i then said

3548
02:06:19,109 --> 02:06:16,800
duty

3549
02:06:20,709 --> 02:06:19,119
i said dude yeah

3550
02:06:23,910 --> 02:06:20,719
but like that's kind of the analogy

3551
02:06:26,069 --> 02:06:23,920
where like this this case is there's no

3552
02:06:28,149 --> 02:06:26,079
it does seem like they were just

3553
02:06:29,910 --> 02:06:28,159
interested they were just stopping by

3554
02:06:32,069 --> 02:06:29,920
they really didn't know how to handle a

3555
02:06:34,790 --> 02:06:32,079
human uh i mean obviously they didn't

3556
02:06:35,910 --> 02:06:34,800
kill him but like dude uh it seemed

3557
02:06:38,310 --> 02:06:35,920
great

3558
02:06:39,750 --> 02:06:38,320
so like dude i

3559
02:06:41,990 --> 02:06:39,760
that that was the analogy that i gave in

3560
02:06:45,510 --> 02:06:42,000
that episode and i feel like it it kind

3561
02:06:47,669 --> 02:06:45,520
of makes sense i mean is that is is that

3562
02:06:49,510 --> 02:06:47,679
an okay analogy to make like it was the

3563
02:06:51,510 --> 02:06:49,520
intentions weren't bad

3564
02:06:53,270 --> 02:06:51,520
it was like right because then she tells

3565
02:06:55,189 --> 02:06:53,280
them she's like hey i don't mean any

3566
02:06:56,950 --> 02:06:55,199
harm like hey we're just here to help

3567
02:06:58,390 --> 02:06:56,960
like i'm just i mean she's not saying

3568
02:06:59,350 --> 02:06:58,400
i'm studying but i feel like that's what

3569
02:07:01,030 --> 02:06:59,360
we're doing

3570
02:07:01,910 --> 02:07:01,040
so that's where it's like in my head

3571
02:07:03,830 --> 02:07:01,920
i've always wondered about it because

3572
02:07:05,589 --> 02:07:03,840
there's a cartoon um i forget which

3573
02:07:06,709 --> 02:07:05,599
cartoon it's on the beginning of but

3574
02:07:08,950 --> 02:07:06,719
there's a little you know the pixar

3575
02:07:11,270 --> 02:07:08,960
shorts i have kids obviously so like i

3576
02:07:12,790 --> 02:07:11,280
love my shorts but pixar shorts are

3577
02:07:14,790 --> 02:07:12,800
amazing versus one and it was

3578
02:07:16,390 --> 02:07:14,800
specifically about this alien training

3579
02:07:18,550 --> 02:07:16,400
with this other alien to like abduct

3580
02:07:20,950 --> 02:07:18,560
somebody and he's sitting at this board

3581
02:07:22,790 --> 02:07:20,960
that's like literally like 100 feet long

3582
02:07:24,310 --> 02:07:22,800
in other directions and he switches to

3583
02:07:25,750 --> 02:07:24,320
everything and he doesn't know how

3584
02:07:27,430 --> 02:07:25,760
anything works so he's just beating the

3585
02:07:28,790 --> 02:07:27,440
crap out of this guy like whirlwinding

3586
02:07:29,990 --> 02:07:28,800
him around the room right trying to make

3587
02:07:31,270 --> 02:07:30,000
everything work

3588
02:07:33,270 --> 02:07:31,280
and sometimes i've wondered like when

3589
02:07:34,550 --> 02:07:33,280
certain people get taken like

3590
02:07:36,870 --> 02:07:34,560
everybody has to have their first time

3591
02:07:37,910 --> 02:07:36,880
their first day

3592
02:07:40,149 --> 02:07:37,920
maybe

3593
02:07:44,390 --> 02:07:40,159
this is one of those cases we're like

3594
02:07:49,350 --> 02:07:47,109
i don't know you know hey

3595
02:07:50,470 --> 02:07:49,360
a crazy thought sorry may interrupt you

3596
02:07:52,069 --> 02:07:50,480
sonny

3597
02:07:52,950 --> 02:07:52,079
um

3598
02:07:54,069 --> 02:07:52,960
uh

3599
02:07:55,270 --> 02:07:54,079
you were sitting there talking about you

3600
02:07:57,430 --> 02:07:55,280
know them just

3601
02:07:59,030 --> 02:07:57,440
kind of like doing like their job or

3602
02:08:00,870 --> 02:07:59,040
some type stuff you know i was looking

3603
02:08:02,550 --> 02:08:00,880
at something with a skin walker

3604
02:08:04,550 --> 02:08:02,560
introvert about how

3605
02:08:07,109 --> 02:08:04,560
some of the uh like the the cattle

3606
02:08:10,870 --> 02:08:07,119
mutilations were like the slices so like

3607
02:08:12,310 --> 02:08:10,880
perfectly between like the cells i mean

3608
02:08:13,669 --> 02:08:12,320
how do you explain it almost made me

3609
02:08:15,750 --> 02:08:13,679
think like what if these things are

3610
02:08:17,750 --> 02:08:15,760
really like extra dimensional they're

3611
02:08:20,069 --> 02:08:17,760
doing like science experiments on like a

3612
02:08:22,629 --> 02:08:20,079
lower dimension beneath them as crazy

3613
02:08:23,910 --> 02:08:22,639
and out there as that sounds i mean

3614
02:08:25,189 --> 02:08:23,920
you get what i'm saying i mean does it

3615
02:08:27,189 --> 02:08:25,199
seem like you know something like that

3616
02:08:29,030 --> 02:08:27,199
could be possible or like what if these

3617
02:08:30,149 --> 02:08:29,040
these ufos that they're coming in on

3618
02:08:31,189 --> 02:08:30,159
they're actually like something where

3619
02:08:33,030 --> 02:08:31,199
they're like

3620
02:08:35,430 --> 02:08:33,040
shrinking down like travel to a lower

3621
02:08:37,270 --> 02:08:35,440
dimensional b to be a light these

3622
02:08:38,709 --> 02:08:37,280
experiments and observe you know what's

3623
02:08:40,390 --> 02:08:38,719
going on in this

3624
02:08:41,669 --> 02:08:40,400
this reality you know i know i got a

3625
02:08:44,629 --> 02:08:41,679
little out there with that but i mean

3626
02:08:46,229 --> 02:08:44,639
i'm not i get these thoughts now i mean

3627
02:08:48,390 --> 02:08:46,239
so much to add to that but i want sony

3628
02:08:50,709 --> 02:08:48,400
to chime in on this

3629
02:08:52,390 --> 02:08:50,719
well no that was for him i'm like you

3630
02:08:54,550 --> 02:08:52,400
man like when he said they stuck the

3631
02:08:56,229 --> 02:08:54,560
fingers down his throat for all you know

3632
02:08:58,069 --> 02:08:56,239
they were doing that just to say hey

3633
02:08:59,830 --> 02:08:58,079
what happens if i stick my finger down

3634
02:09:00,950 --> 02:08:59,840
this throat

3635
02:09:03,510 --> 02:09:00,960
you know

3636
02:09:05,030 --> 02:09:03,520
yeah they yeah you really don't know why

3637
02:09:06,629 --> 02:09:05,040
they're doing it but

3638
02:09:08,310 --> 02:09:06,639
there's so many people that say it's

3639
02:09:09,669 --> 02:09:08,320
happening it's got to be you know

3640
02:09:10,950 --> 02:09:09,679
they're they're telling the truth you

3641
02:09:13,030 --> 02:09:10,960
can see the look in their eyes when

3642
02:09:15,270 --> 02:09:13,040
they're telling their stories yeah

3643
02:09:16,790 --> 02:09:15,280
yeah this stuff happened

3644
02:09:18,470 --> 02:09:16,800
i mean think about this

3645
02:09:20,950 --> 02:09:18,480
like grounded a little bit maybe if he

3646
02:09:23,109 --> 02:09:20,960
was sleeping in some form of fashion

3647
02:09:25,510 --> 02:09:23,119
maybe he's a snorer and they were trying

3648
02:09:27,430 --> 02:09:25,520
to save his life you know who knows dude

3649
02:09:28,390 --> 02:09:27,440
they're like he's joking let's do

3650
02:09:29,990 --> 02:09:28,400
something

3651
02:09:31,189 --> 02:09:30,000
i thought he was growling could be that

3652
02:09:33,990 --> 02:09:31,199
dude

3653
02:09:36,149 --> 02:09:34,000
uh i don't know but so i mean josh if i

3654
02:09:38,069 --> 02:09:36,159
could weigh in on your your your uh

3655
02:09:38,950 --> 02:09:38,079
thought about the the cattle mutilation

3656
02:09:40,550 --> 02:09:38,960
thing

3657
02:09:42,470 --> 02:09:40,560
i uh i don't know if you've seen

3658
02:09:44,149 --> 02:09:42,480
american horror story lately they're

3659
02:09:46,950 --> 02:09:44,159
doing like this ufo like half of the

3660
02:09:48,390 --> 02:09:46,960
season it's like you have so will you

3661
02:09:51,030 --> 02:09:48,400
know it's like

3662
02:09:52,550 --> 02:09:51,040
all right it's like so on the nose but

3663
02:09:55,350 --> 02:09:52,560
also like [\h__\h]

3664
02:09:58,390 --> 02:09:55,360
you've heard the term of of uh

3665
02:09:59,510 --> 02:09:58,400
uh somebody help me out it's not like

3666
02:10:01,430 --> 02:09:59,520
uh

3667
02:10:03,030 --> 02:10:01,440
disinformation but it's like

3668
02:10:04,709 --> 02:10:03,040
misinformation

3669
02:10:06,870 --> 02:10:04,719
where it's like they they kind of

3670
02:10:08,390 --> 02:10:06,880
hollywoodize things to make it seem so

3671
02:10:10,069 --> 02:10:08,400
ridiculous that if anybody were to

3672
02:10:12,550 --> 02:10:10,079
regurgitate any of this stuff it would

3673
02:10:14,550 --> 02:10:12,560
it would discredit them

3674
02:10:17,109 --> 02:10:14,560
which is such a catch-22 snake bite in

3675
02:10:18,470 --> 02:10:17,119
its tail it's like oh [\h__\h] well damn it

3676
02:10:20,069 --> 02:10:18,480
it's really good to watch because

3677
02:10:22,149 --> 02:10:20,079
there's so many things little details

3678
02:10:23,430 --> 02:10:22,159
but anyway i'm watching the show

3679
02:10:24,790 --> 02:10:23,440
and um

3680
02:10:25,669 --> 02:10:24,800
that's the kind of feeling that i got

3681
02:10:29,750 --> 02:10:25,679
when

3682
02:10:31,189 --> 02:10:29,760
neutralization or cattle

3683
02:10:31,910 --> 02:10:31,199
mutilation when they're talking about

3684
02:10:32,950 --> 02:10:31,920
this

3685
02:10:34,310 --> 02:10:32,960
uh

3686
02:10:36,470 --> 02:10:34,320
hybridization

3687
02:10:38,629 --> 02:10:36,480
program where

3688
02:10:40,629 --> 02:10:38,639
uh i don't want to

3689
02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:40,639
do any spoilers but they have a they

3690
02:10:44,470 --> 02:10:42,880
touch on the hybridization program and

3691
02:10:46,390 --> 02:10:44,480
they don't really talk about cattle all

3692
02:10:48,629 --> 02:10:46,400
that much there is a cattle scene in it

3693
02:10:51,109 --> 02:10:48,639
that's pretty freaking gory whoever did

3694
02:10:52,629 --> 02:10:51,119
that special effects was awesome but uh

3695
02:10:54,229 --> 02:10:52,639
this is the thought that i got from that

3696
02:10:55,910 --> 02:10:54,239
scene recently

3697
02:10:57,510 --> 02:10:55,920
is that if there was an alien race that

3698
02:10:59,910 --> 02:10:57,520
was trying to

3699
02:11:02,069 --> 02:10:59,920
be in this dimension on a on a regular

3700
02:11:03,510 --> 02:11:02,079
basis not just whip in and out

3701
02:11:05,270 --> 02:11:03,520
you know for a little bit mcdonald's

3702
02:11:07,430 --> 02:11:05,280
here and there you know some

3703
02:11:08,950 --> 02:11:07,440
uh some french fries here and

3704
02:11:11,510 --> 02:11:08,960
they wanted to stay

3705
02:11:13,270 --> 02:11:11,520
and be in this dimension they would have

3706
02:11:14,470 --> 02:11:13,280
to find a viable

3707
02:11:42,629 --> 02:11:14,480
a

3708
02:11:44,229 --> 02:11:42,639
we'll see you over there with uh with

3709
02:11:45,990 --> 02:11:44,239
lynn wellington tonight and guys if

3710
02:11:47,430 --> 02:11:46,000
anybody knows who lynn has on tonight i

3711
02:11:50,390 --> 02:11:47,440
know her big round table is tomorrow but

3712
02:11:52,069 --> 02:11:50,400
i don't actually i i i usually

3713
02:11:53,910 --> 02:11:52,079
did you send me a message man i'm sorry

3714
02:11:55,750 --> 02:11:53,920
i will check that

3715
02:11:57,109 --> 02:11:55,760
oh that is you did send me that i don't

3716
02:11:58,069 --> 02:11:57,119
just it showed it was like a big long

3717
02:12:00,069 --> 02:11:58,079
thing

3718
02:12:04,069 --> 02:12:00,079
all right

3719
02:12:06,390 --> 02:12:04,079
i apologize guys wow why is it so long

3720
02:12:07,910 --> 02:12:06,400
uh oh lisa morton that's right all right

3721
02:12:08,950 --> 02:12:07,920
so lisa morton tonight guys with lynn

3722
02:12:11,270 --> 02:12:08,960
wallington

3723
02:12:12,950 --> 02:12:11,280
in about 45 minutes here all right but

3724
02:12:15,030 --> 02:12:12,960
thank you julie for hanging out

3725
02:12:16,390 --> 02:12:15,040
with us tonight uh yeah

3726
02:12:18,870 --> 02:12:16,400
josh you probably know about this

3727
02:12:21,510 --> 02:12:18,880
obviously hanging out with it with the

3728
02:12:23,589 --> 02:12:21,520
with the bledsoes uh anybody who listens

3729
02:12:25,270 --> 02:12:23,599
to bledsoe said so guys i'm sorry i'm

3730
02:12:31,430 --> 02:12:25,280
sorry i don't want to is that okay to

3731
02:12:36,229 --> 02:12:33,669
best podcast out there right now so good

3732
02:12:39,910 --> 02:12:36,239
it's so good um but yeah the dude they

3733
02:12:42,390 --> 02:12:39,920
literally used the exact location name

3734
02:12:44,229 --> 02:12:42,400
of the river and everything from his

3735
02:12:46,229 --> 02:12:44,239
dads and from

3736
02:12:49,109 --> 02:12:46,239
the caper river to sure

3737
02:12:51,430 --> 02:12:49,119
same place as the american horror story

3738
02:12:53,910 --> 02:12:51,440
what are the chances oh oh in america

3739
02:12:56,069 --> 02:12:53,920
what are you serious it's the exact

3740
02:12:58,470 --> 02:12:56,079
location what

3741
02:12:59,589 --> 02:12:58,480
it came here it is the perfect name for

3742
02:13:01,589 --> 02:12:59,599
it you know

3743
02:13:02,870 --> 02:13:01,599
now i think about it yeah

3744
02:13:04,390 --> 02:13:02,880
it's crazy

3745
02:13:06,069 --> 02:13:04,400
weird

3746
02:13:12,709 --> 02:13:06,079
blotching said wow why do you make me

3747
02:13:15,750 --> 02:13:14,069
by the way speaking of black chick

3748
02:13:16,390 --> 02:13:15,760
really quick since we're talking about

3749
02:13:17,510 --> 02:13:16,400
her

3750
02:13:19,350 --> 02:13:17,520
um

3751
02:13:22,470 --> 02:13:19,360
was she on is she on chat probation

3752
02:13:23,830 --> 02:13:22,480
right now like somebody was like

3753
02:13:25,270 --> 02:13:23,840
uh so i might not be able to get you on

3754
02:13:27,109 --> 02:13:25,280
next week because like i said i have nk

3755
02:13:29,189 --> 02:13:27,119
kanata next week and i'm i think i'm

3756
02:13:30,950 --> 02:13:29,199
booked all the way till literally the

3757
02:13:32,069 --> 02:13:30,960
second weekend of

3758
02:13:33,669 --> 02:13:32,079
december

3759
02:13:35,510 --> 02:13:33,679
but we've got sonny here from the

3760
02:13:37,189 --> 02:13:35,520
paranormal chop shop you've got ben and

3761
02:13:39,350 --> 02:13:37,199
joe as well so like if anybody ever has

3762
02:13:41,669 --> 02:13:39,360
any experiences or whatever we there are

3763
02:13:43,589 --> 02:13:41,679
their other pocket chad freaking smith

3764
02:13:44,390 --> 02:13:43,599
mother trucker has his own podcast now

3765
02:13:46,709 --> 02:13:44,400
right

3766
02:13:47,990 --> 02:13:46,719
there were podcasts out there and we all

3767
02:13:49,430 --> 02:13:48,000
kind of know each other so we'd probably

3768
02:13:52,229 --> 02:13:49,440
show up or be there or maybe be around

3769
02:13:53,830 --> 02:13:52,239
perhaps um to definitely be able to get

3770
02:13:55,589 --> 02:13:53,840
you on and blackjack i think you were

3771
02:13:57,750 --> 02:13:55,599
she was in the chat we've gotta have

3772
02:13:59,109 --> 02:13:57,760
blockchain like asap

3773
02:14:00,709 --> 02:13:59,119
i tried to invite her but she said she's

3774
02:14:02,470 --> 02:14:00,719
got some well

3775
02:14:03,910 --> 02:14:02,480
let me hang out i'll go scroll up to

3776
02:14:04,950 --> 02:14:03,920
find exactly what she said i didn't know

3777
02:14:06,790 --> 02:14:04,960
if i was going to share it or not but it

3778
02:14:09,189 --> 02:14:06,800
made me laugh so hard

3779
02:14:10,390 --> 02:14:09,199
she's [\h__\h] she's funny

3780
02:14:11,990 --> 02:14:10,400
hey

3781
02:14:13,990 --> 02:14:12,000
beside you

3782
02:14:16,870 --> 02:14:14,000
i think i started noticing a pattern

3783
02:14:18,629 --> 02:14:16,880
didn't you kill joe's fish too oh god

3784
02:14:21,589 --> 02:14:18,639
don't talk about me

3785
02:14:23,910 --> 02:14:21,599
you you did and then the mice

3786
02:14:27,430 --> 02:14:23,920
you don't like adam it was

3787
02:14:28,870 --> 02:14:27,440
peter's gonna be after you dude okay

3788
02:14:33,270 --> 02:14:28,880
son

3789
02:14:37,589 --> 02:14:35,990
i hope you don't have fish

3790
02:14:39,750 --> 02:14:37,599
or mice

3791
02:14:42,870 --> 02:14:39,760
so black chick said no i cannot tonight

3792
02:14:45,350 --> 02:14:42,880
but i can next week and then she said

3793
02:14:52,310 --> 02:14:45,360
i'm on mom duty this week but next week

3794
02:14:55,990 --> 02:14:54,310
i wanted to share it but i was like i

3795
02:14:58,310 --> 02:14:56,000
don't know yeah

3796
02:15:01,589 --> 02:14:58,320
but it made me laugh cindy out there now

3797
02:15:02,870 --> 02:15:01,599
who's turned us off we've gone from like

3798
02:15:04,390 --> 02:15:02,880
we had like 50 something people in here

3799
02:15:06,470 --> 02:15:04,400
at one point that's my fault i'm sorry

3800
02:15:09,030 --> 02:15:06,480
guys i know it's okay it's like oh my

3801
02:15:11,030 --> 02:15:09,040
god joe is on his own show or ben ben's

3802
02:15:13,589 --> 02:15:11,040
on his own show how dare this man show

3803
02:15:16,069 --> 02:15:13,599
up i i feel like

3804
02:15:16,870 --> 02:15:16,079
i love what's happening dude like

3805
02:15:20,069 --> 02:15:16,880
uh

3806
02:15:22,550 --> 02:15:20,079
will do like you came on our show

3807
02:15:24,310 --> 02:15:22,560
and like like i like a couple more

3808
02:15:26,629 --> 02:15:24,320
people all we just needed was like 10

3809
02:15:27,830 --> 02:15:26,639
more people to hear how awesome you are

3810
02:15:29,430 --> 02:15:27,840
and

3811
02:15:32,149 --> 02:15:29,440
now you're more you're more famous than

3812
02:15:33,669 --> 02:15:32,159
us so that's cool never ever listen

3813
02:15:37,350 --> 02:15:33,679
we're a freaking team we're freaking a

3814
02:15:39,270 --> 02:15:37,360
team sonny's next and joshua's next so

3815
02:15:40,870 --> 02:15:39,280
when the guy came on the other day and

3816
02:15:44,390 --> 02:15:40,880
said so

3817
02:15:59,270 --> 02:15:44,400
you let ben and joe go on your show

3818
02:16:02,629 --> 02:16:00,870
i got the text message from sunny first

3819
02:16:04,149 --> 02:16:02,639
and i was like oh wait

3820
02:16:04,850 --> 02:16:04,159
and i actually watched it he didn't say

3821
02:16:07,189 --> 02:16:04,860
that dude

3822
02:16:09,910 --> 02:16:07,199
[Music]

3823
02:16:11,990 --> 02:16:09,920
i didn't say it he said that come on god

3824
02:16:14,709 --> 02:16:12,000
he's like oh he's like okay you thought

3825
02:16:16,629 --> 02:16:14,719
i said that

3826
02:16:29,350 --> 02:16:16,639
awesome

3827
02:16:38,070 --> 02:16:32,629
what was the uh first part that uh were

3828
02:16:42,870 --> 02:16:39,669
oh yeah sorry my phone just totally

3829
02:16:44,709 --> 02:16:42,880
broke up i was asking big willy man uh

3830
02:16:47,190 --> 02:16:44,719
yeah you had any kind of signs yourself

3831
02:16:51,110 --> 02:16:47,200
i'm sorry i've got my phone's [\h__\h] up

3832
02:16:55,190 --> 02:16:53,429
so funny all right i'm good

3833
02:16:57,270 --> 02:16:55,200
yeah sounds good yeah we can hear you

3834
02:16:58,549 --> 02:16:57,280
now um

3835
02:17:00,070 --> 02:16:58,559
by the way to answer this question real

3836
02:17:01,830 --> 02:17:00,080
quick and i will get to yours josh uh

3837
02:17:05,509 --> 02:17:01,840
tammy are the reports of human

3838
02:17:07,509 --> 02:17:05,519
ventilations a 100 percent look up south

3839
02:17:08,790 --> 02:17:07,519
america mutilations

3840
02:17:12,469 --> 02:17:08,800
there were some a matter of fact steve

3841
02:17:14,549 --> 02:17:12,479
stockton called um if you look up uh sor

3842
02:17:16,709 --> 02:17:14,559
has promoted them quite a few times 13

3843
02:17:18,709 --> 02:17:16,719
past midnight they have a lot of of

3844
02:17:19,990 --> 02:17:18,719
stories but steve came out one time and

3845
02:17:21,669 --> 02:17:20,000
shared the one

3846
02:17:23,030 --> 02:17:21,679
where there was like a whole family if

3847
02:17:25,110 --> 02:17:23,040
i'm not getting this wrong it was a

3848
02:17:27,750 --> 02:17:25,120
family and i think four four

3849
02:17:29,509 --> 02:17:27,760
four six children all their dogs their

3850
02:17:31,990 --> 02:17:29,519
cats their goats everything in the

3851
02:17:33,030 --> 02:17:32,000
property were drained of their blood

3852
02:17:34,389 --> 02:17:33,040
everything

3853
02:17:36,790 --> 02:17:34,399
and this is where you get into the stuff

3854
02:17:39,030 --> 02:17:36,800
like dude are vampires still out there

3855
02:17:42,070 --> 02:17:39,040
are they still you know but anyways yes

3856
02:17:43,910 --> 02:17:42,080
the the mutilation stuff it there it is

3857
02:17:45,270 --> 02:17:43,920
there it's pretty to me it's pretty

3858
02:17:47,589 --> 02:17:45,280
terrifying when you actually look into

3859
02:17:49,589 --> 02:17:47,599
it so tammy i'm not the right person to

3860
02:17:51,110 --> 02:17:49,599
ask but black chick as well as melissa

3861
02:17:52,790 --> 02:17:51,120
who are in the chat

3862
02:17:54,549 --> 02:17:52,800
hang out there over quite a bit and they

3863
02:17:55,830 --> 02:17:54,559
could probably get you the links

3864
02:17:58,309 --> 02:17:55,840
um the only thing i know of off time

3865
02:17:59,910 --> 02:17:58,319
ahead is the 13 past midnight

3866
02:18:01,270 --> 02:17:59,920
as well as the nighttime it's a

3867
02:18:02,469 --> 02:18:01,280
nighttime tales or something like that

3868
02:18:05,190 --> 02:18:02,479
on youtube i've been hopping there a

3869
02:18:06,709 --> 02:18:05,200
couple times too um but yeah josh i i

3870
02:18:08,950 --> 02:18:06,719
don't see i could never conclusively

3871
02:18:10,389 --> 02:18:08,960
kind of and i hate okay i'm gonna be the

3872
02:18:12,150 --> 02:18:10,399
guy that i like when i listen to these

3873
02:18:14,230 --> 02:18:12,160
people and they're like well let's do

3874
02:18:15,589 --> 02:18:14,240
fine you know and you're like oh come on

3875
02:18:17,110 --> 02:18:15,599
dude really you're gonna be like let's

3876
02:18:23,110 --> 02:18:17,120
do fine did you see something i could

3877
02:18:28,549 --> 02:18:25,669
i i could never conclusively say i've

3878
02:18:30,629 --> 02:18:28,559
seen something solely because i i know

3879
02:18:31,750 --> 02:18:30,639
that memory is a fickle thing right so

3880
02:18:32,950 --> 02:18:31,760
like

3881
02:18:34,790 --> 02:18:32,960
justin

3882
02:18:36,389 --> 02:18:34,800
i think for sure i've had some some

3883
02:18:37,750 --> 02:18:36,399
experiences

3884
02:18:40,549 --> 02:18:37,760
but uh

3885
02:18:41,589 --> 02:18:40,559
majority of those happen i was much much

3886
02:18:43,910 --> 02:18:41,599
younger

3887
02:18:45,190 --> 02:18:43,920
and uh so it's

3888
02:18:48,230 --> 02:18:45,200
in the back of my head i'm always like

3889
02:18:49,349 --> 02:18:48,240
man is it is it your imagination was it

3890
02:18:50,549 --> 02:18:49,359
you know you're a kid with an active

3891
02:18:52,549 --> 02:18:50,559
imagination

3892
02:18:53,589 --> 02:18:52,559
someone that i know wasn't

3893
02:18:54,709 --> 02:18:53,599
but

3894
02:18:56,950 --> 02:18:54,719
uh

3895
02:18:59,190 --> 02:18:56,960
to what extent i don't know because i

3896
02:19:00,629 --> 02:18:59,200
was raised in such a religious household

3897
02:19:02,549 --> 02:19:00,639
everything was either angels or demons

3898
02:19:04,709 --> 02:19:02,559
right and so

3899
02:19:06,870 --> 02:19:04,719
that's how i interpreted everything you

3900
02:19:09,589 --> 02:19:06,880
know what i mean it was either this or

3901
02:19:10,629 --> 02:19:09,599
that and it now coming in and hearing in

3902
02:19:12,070 --> 02:19:10,639
through the community and hearing so

3903
02:19:13,910 --> 02:19:12,080
many stories i'm like oh

3904
02:19:15,910 --> 02:19:13,920
that's my terry lovely story i

3905
02:19:17,429 --> 02:19:15,920
legitimately had to like turn off the i

3906
02:19:19,110 --> 02:19:17,439
was listening to his book at work i had

3907
02:19:20,629 --> 02:19:19,120
to like take a minute to like wipe a

3908
02:19:21,910 --> 02:19:20,639
tear in my eye because it got to me that

3909
02:19:23,190 --> 02:19:21,920
way it bothered me that much hearing him

3910
02:19:24,070 --> 02:19:23,200
talk about the monkeys coming into this

3911
02:19:26,309 --> 02:19:24,080
room

3912
02:19:27,910 --> 02:19:26,319
that bothered me so much even though for

3913
02:19:30,070 --> 02:19:27,920
me it wasn't monkeys for me when i was a

3914
02:19:32,389 --> 02:19:30,080
kid but it was that idea that same

3915
02:19:34,150 --> 02:19:32,399
experience of being a little kid

3916
02:19:35,589 --> 02:19:34,160
and things coming into your room and it

3917
02:19:37,750 --> 02:19:35,599
doesn't make any sense you know what i

3918
02:19:39,509 --> 02:19:37,760
mean it's a scary thing when you're when

3919
02:19:41,429 --> 02:19:39,519
you're just a little one

3920
02:19:43,509 --> 02:19:41,439
you know it's really crazy now

3921
02:19:45,910 --> 02:19:43,519
sounds so bad but like

3922
02:19:47,830 --> 02:19:45,920
this is starting i think

3923
02:19:50,150 --> 02:19:47,840
stuff's happening like with liam because

3924
02:19:52,550 --> 02:19:50,160
he he was totally fine and now he's like

3925
02:19:54,389 --> 02:19:52,560
he cannot sleep he went from like in his

3926
02:19:55,670 --> 02:19:54,399
bed totally fine and i get again i don't

3927
02:19:56,550 --> 02:19:55,680
ever want to like reach much and stuff

3928
02:19:58,950 --> 02:19:56,560
but like

3929
02:20:01,110 --> 02:19:58,960
he went from being totally fine to like

3930
02:20:02,550 --> 02:20:01,120
just terrified to sleep in his own back

3931
02:20:04,790 --> 02:20:02,560
he said it's going to get him and he

3932
02:20:05,830 --> 02:20:04,800
never defines what it is you know and

3933
02:20:07,270 --> 02:20:05,840
it's

3934
02:20:09,270 --> 02:20:07,280
that's that's the only part that's rough

3935
02:20:10,469 --> 02:20:09,280
is if if your kid like maybe yourself

3936
02:20:12,070 --> 02:20:10,479
you're like whatever but now that you're

3937
02:20:13,429 --> 02:20:12,080
a parent and like man you have your own

3938
02:20:14,550 --> 02:20:13,439
little baby now so you get that like

3939
02:20:17,110 --> 02:20:14,560
it's probably started to kick in for you

3940
02:20:17,910 --> 02:20:17,120
as a father anybody who has a kid

3941
02:20:19,270 --> 02:20:17,920
you

3942
02:20:20,790 --> 02:20:19,280
it's such a

3943
02:20:23,110 --> 02:20:20,800
i would never want to rob them of their

3944
02:20:24,870 --> 02:20:23,120
own experiences but man is it terrifying

3945
02:20:27,110 --> 02:20:24,880
if that's going on

3946
02:20:28,550 --> 02:20:27,120
you know yeah it's hard to put it into

3947
02:20:31,670 --> 02:20:28,560
words i guess i've never really tried to

3948
02:20:34,309 --> 02:20:31,680
put it really to really put it out there

3949
02:20:37,030 --> 02:20:34,319
you know what i mean yeah i mean

3950
02:20:38,790 --> 02:20:37,040
what is the most uh i mean for anybody

3951
02:20:41,030 --> 02:20:38,800
really for for the human condition is

3952
02:20:42,950 --> 02:20:41,040
being like out of control you do look

3953
02:20:44,150 --> 02:20:42,960
like you're 25 by the way really dude

3954
02:20:46,070 --> 02:20:44,160
until i took my hat off and then you're

3955
02:20:47,190 --> 02:20:46,080
like does that guy fit five years old

3956
02:20:48,630 --> 02:20:47,200
i gotta shave dude i'm gonna shave my

3957
02:20:50,230 --> 02:20:48,640
head down the rest away before i go out

3958
02:20:51,750 --> 02:20:50,240
sorry for sure

3959
02:20:53,750 --> 02:20:51,760
you've seen it you've seen how low i had

3960
02:20:55,670 --> 02:20:53,760
it dude you you i thought you were doing

3961
02:20:57,670 --> 02:20:55,680
that on a rag dude you look good bro you

3962
02:21:00,150 --> 02:20:57,680
look intimidating but you also like the

3963
02:21:03,590 --> 02:21:00,160
nicest dude ever like

3964
02:21:05,670 --> 02:21:03,600
some uh uh what is it um

3965
02:21:07,830 --> 02:21:05,680
uh what's the what's the actor's name

3966
02:21:11,590 --> 02:21:07,840
dang it he's in uh the jump back guy

3967
02:21:14,550 --> 02:21:11,600
he's the uh street no wait a minute

3968
02:21:15,750 --> 02:21:14,560
bruce willis there we go bruce oh

3969
02:21:18,230 --> 02:21:15,760
jump back

3970
02:21:21,349 --> 02:21:18,240
with the correlation he's in no other

3971
02:21:24,389 --> 02:21:21,359
movie but that one movie that i

3972
02:21:28,630 --> 02:21:25,349
sorry i interrupted your train of

3973
02:22:00,150 --> 02:21:29,349
i

3974
02:22:01,910 --> 02:22:00,160
uh everywhere or uh

3975
02:22:02,870 --> 02:22:01,920
everything everyone's an alien possibly

3976
02:22:04,150 --> 02:22:02,880
i don't know

3977
02:22:06,309 --> 02:22:04,160
but uh

3978
02:22:08,070 --> 02:22:06,319
yeah that that's that's

3979
02:22:09,590 --> 02:22:08,080
you gave me chills when you mentioned

3980
02:22:12,070 --> 02:22:09,600
that because that's something that i

3981
02:22:14,070 --> 02:22:12,080
have not thought of for

3982
02:22:15,830 --> 02:22:14,080
my daughter if she sees anything like

3983
02:22:18,550 --> 02:22:15,840
that so i mean

3984
02:22:19,670 --> 02:22:18,560
i i haven't had any uh

3985
02:22:20,830 --> 02:22:19,680
encounters

3986
02:22:25,830 --> 02:22:20,840
that

3987
02:22:27,110 --> 02:22:25,840
only seen lights and orbs and stuff but

3988
02:22:29,030 --> 02:22:27,120
still it's like this the thought is

3989
02:22:30,230 --> 02:22:29,040
scary right like how do you how do you

3990
02:22:32,150 --> 02:22:30,240
approach that how do you explain that

3991
02:22:34,710 --> 02:22:32,160
[\h__\h]

3992
02:22:36,630 --> 02:22:34,720
i'll admit i've been doing a little bit

3993
02:22:38,309 --> 02:22:36,640
different

3994
02:22:39,590 --> 02:22:38,319
because and some of this i already

3995
02:22:40,950 --> 02:22:39,600
started doing but then like i talked to

3996
02:22:41,750 --> 02:22:40,960
anne about it too

3997
02:22:42,550 --> 02:22:41,760
uh

3998
02:22:44,389 --> 02:22:42,560
and

3999
02:22:45,830 --> 02:22:44,399
she was in the idea that we as parents

4000
02:22:47,190 --> 02:22:45,840
you know condition our children down

4001
02:22:48,070 --> 02:22:47,200
even though we're as adults might be

4002
02:22:49,670 --> 02:22:48,080
into some of the stuff we're still

4003
02:22:51,270 --> 02:22:49,680
conditioning them down to be like oh

4004
02:22:52,630 --> 02:22:51,280
she's your imagination or what you're

4005
02:22:54,469 --> 02:22:52,640
seeing on tv that isn't real those

4006
02:22:55,830 --> 02:22:54,479
things don't exist and like she said

4007
02:22:58,070 --> 02:22:55,840
what do you do if your kid encounters

4008
02:22:59,750 --> 02:22:58,080
that their entire paradigm is just

4009
02:23:01,110 --> 02:22:59,760
destroyed and who are they supposed to

4010
02:23:02,309 --> 02:23:01,120
go to you've told them this doesn't

4011
02:23:03,670 --> 02:23:02,319
exist

4012
02:23:04,950 --> 02:23:03,680
so

4013
02:23:06,309 --> 02:23:04,960
all of a sudden i've encountered this

4014
02:23:07,910 --> 02:23:06,319
whatever it might be an apparition a

4015
02:23:08,950 --> 02:23:07,920
ghost or anything

4016
02:23:10,950 --> 02:23:08,960
and if you were saying these things

4017
02:23:13,190 --> 02:23:10,960
don't exist but then you hit that weird

4018
02:23:14,870 --> 02:23:13,200
spot where like are you gonna manifest

4019
02:23:16,309 --> 02:23:14,880
things if you're telling them they exist

4020
02:23:19,990 --> 02:23:16,319
you know

4021
02:23:22,070 --> 02:23:20,000
yeah

4022
02:23:23,830 --> 02:23:22,080
i hadn't thought about that

4023
02:23:25,750 --> 02:23:23,840
but i i keep pretty open with the kids

4024
02:23:27,110 --> 02:23:25,760
when they ask i i

4025
02:23:28,790 --> 02:23:27,120
like

4026
02:23:29,990 --> 02:23:28,800
i mean i just tell them you know

4027
02:23:30,870 --> 02:23:30,000
everybody raise your kids how you want

4028
02:23:32,950 --> 02:23:30,880
but like

4029
02:23:35,030 --> 02:23:32,960
i i was like yeah i mean think stuff's

4030
02:23:37,510 --> 02:23:35,040
out there but i was like you know we

4031
02:23:38,870 --> 02:23:37,520
don't always know you know but

4032
02:23:39,910 --> 02:23:38,880
we don't we don't know what's out there

4033
02:23:41,590 --> 02:23:39,920
so it's like if you see something you

4034
02:23:43,270 --> 02:23:41,600
can totally tell us it's okay you know

4035
02:23:45,429 --> 02:23:43,280
what i mean because who knows we don't

4036
02:23:47,910 --> 02:23:45,439
know

4037
02:23:49,030 --> 02:23:47,920
now what you said uh they [\h__\h] add in

4038
02:23:50,790 --> 02:23:49,040
about

4039
02:23:53,030 --> 02:23:50,800
telling them you know these things exist

4040
02:23:55,030 --> 02:23:53,040
you know will it start manifesting i got

4041
02:23:57,990 --> 02:23:55,040
into a deep thought about this yesterday

4042
02:23:59,830 --> 02:23:58,000
just watching um my nephew on a tablet

4043
02:24:01,030 --> 02:23:59,840
and being on like three years old and be

4044
02:24:03,670 --> 02:24:01,040
able to move their fingers you know

4045
02:24:05,670 --> 02:24:03,680
super fast and you know like doing this

4046
02:24:07,670 --> 02:24:05,680
stuff on this computer that they've got

4047
02:24:09,270 --> 02:24:07,680
you know before you know like am i

4048
02:24:10,950 --> 02:24:09,280
always going to school and then thinking

4049
02:24:13,110 --> 02:24:10,960
you know a kid's brain is already like a

4050
02:24:14,870 --> 02:24:13,120
sponge at that age so thank you they're

4051
02:24:17,030 --> 02:24:14,880
already absorbing this super advanced

4052
02:24:19,190 --> 02:24:17,040
technology that you know like who know

4053
02:24:21,349 --> 02:24:19,200
we probably did get this this technology

4054
02:24:22,870 --> 02:24:21,359
from reverse engineering [\h__\h] you know

4055
02:24:24,389 --> 02:24:22,880
but i mean i'm thinking you know like

4056
02:24:25,590 --> 02:24:24,399
they've got this advanced technology

4057
02:24:27,030 --> 02:24:25,600
they're working with their fingers at

4058
02:24:28,630 --> 02:24:27,040
such a young age and it's like their

4059
02:24:30,630 --> 02:24:28,640
brains are already absorbing super

4060
02:24:32,150 --> 02:24:30,640
[\h__\h] fast so it's like it's it's

4061
02:24:33,510 --> 02:24:32,160
double and you know i mean

4062
02:24:35,030 --> 02:24:33,520
i know i went off a little bit of

4063
02:24:36,710 --> 02:24:35,040
tangent there but you get what i'm

4064
02:24:38,070 --> 02:24:36,720
saying like about telling them to be

4065
02:24:39,990 --> 02:24:38,080
able to manifest this stuff they're

4066
02:24:41,750 --> 02:24:40,000
already manifesting you know how to be

4067
02:24:43,429 --> 02:24:41,760
able to do things in but not how to be

4068
02:24:45,349 --> 02:24:43,439
able to get instant knowledge

4069
02:24:47,830 --> 02:24:45,359
and it's it's literally making their

4070
02:24:49,110 --> 02:24:47,840
brains work quicker as the days go by i

4071
02:24:50,389 --> 02:24:49,120
don't know i'm sorry you triggered

4072
02:24:54,870 --> 02:24:50,399
something in my head where you said that

4073
02:24:59,510 --> 02:24:57,429
i love that damn

4074
02:25:01,270 --> 02:24:59,520
yeah i love that i wonder i wonder if

4075
02:25:03,270 --> 02:25:01,280
it's uh this catalyst right like this

4076
02:25:04,150 --> 02:25:03,280
this idea that um

4077
02:25:07,510 --> 02:25:04,160
if you

4078
02:25:09,910 --> 02:25:07,520
if we're talking about you know

4079
02:25:12,070 --> 02:25:09,920
manifesting things whether it be a

4080
02:25:13,830 --> 02:25:12,080
situation or an outcome

4081
02:25:17,750 --> 02:25:13,840
if it's attainable if you if you leave

4082
02:25:21,110 --> 02:25:19,429
the power of manifestation dude i mean

4083
02:25:22,870 --> 02:25:21,120
there's been how many books written

4084
02:25:25,750 --> 02:25:22,880
about that [\h__\h]

4085
02:25:28,230 --> 02:25:25,760
so how is that if it can apply to

4086
02:25:31,349 --> 02:25:28,240
success or money or whatever why can't

4087
02:25:32,309 --> 02:25:31,359
it apply to the phenomenon

4088
02:25:34,630 --> 02:25:32,319
yeah

4089
02:25:38,550 --> 02:25:34,640
and if we're if we're teaching our kids

4090
02:25:40,550 --> 02:25:38,560
at a young age that you can achieve

4091
02:25:42,150 --> 02:25:40,560
really what they're doing is telepathy

4092
02:25:43,750 --> 02:25:42,160
right like

4093
02:25:45,910 --> 02:25:43,760
if we're learning

4094
02:25:48,550 --> 02:25:45,920
digitally we're not speaking you know

4095
02:25:51,110 --> 02:25:48,560
for at home um

4096
02:25:53,429 --> 02:25:51,120
you know answering to i mean

4097
02:25:54,710 --> 02:25:53,439
so what what's the thought on that then

4098
02:25:57,190 --> 02:25:54,720
like we know how we talk about like the

4099
02:25:59,670 --> 02:25:57,200
natural calcification of the penile

4100
02:26:01,830 --> 02:25:59,680
gland over time through

4101
02:26:03,830 --> 02:26:01,840
not only just the natural effect of that

4102
02:26:05,349 --> 02:26:03,840
but then

4103
02:26:06,630 --> 02:26:05,359
getting into all the stuff that's in

4104
02:26:08,630 --> 02:26:06,640
everything we eat and drink and all that

4105
02:26:09,750 --> 02:26:08,640
other jazz that plays into that now

4106
02:26:11,990 --> 02:26:09,760
um

4107
02:26:14,150 --> 02:26:12,000
look how early children are are on

4108
02:26:15,270 --> 02:26:14,160
tablets or on electronic sound i'm not

4109
02:26:17,590 --> 02:26:15,280
saying that's all bad because i

4110
02:26:19,349 --> 02:26:17,600
understand it's where we're going but

4111
02:26:21,670 --> 02:26:19,359
man are we are they like knocking it out

4112
02:26:24,070 --> 02:26:21,680
so soon because like for me we didn't

4113
02:26:25,110 --> 02:26:24,080
get our first tv until i was 11.

4114
02:26:27,510 --> 02:26:25,120
so

4115
02:26:30,550 --> 02:26:27,520
we didn't have that you had time to sit

4116
02:26:33,190 --> 02:26:30,560
around and play and imagine and and be

4117
02:26:35,429 --> 02:26:33,200
involved and creating in your mind

4118
02:26:36,550 --> 02:26:35,439
and if we hadn't had that

4119
02:26:37,590 --> 02:26:36,560
then like i hate to say it's like even

4120
02:26:39,190 --> 02:26:37,600
time without like our kids like

4121
02:26:40,630 --> 02:26:39,200
sometimes like we have a dvd player in

4122
02:26:44,309 --> 02:26:40,640
the van so like we got a long drive heck

4123
02:26:45,990 --> 02:26:44,319
yeah that dvd player is on right so uh

4124
02:26:47,510 --> 02:26:46,000
it was like we had to like talk about

4125
02:26:50,230 --> 02:26:47,520
stuff and play trivia and games and

4126
02:26:51,910 --> 02:26:50,240
whatever else i just wonder if and i

4127
02:26:53,349 --> 02:26:51,920
don't think it's any entity out there

4128
02:26:55,190 --> 02:26:53,359
targeting this but i could see how it

4129
02:26:57,030 --> 02:26:55,200
would also be doing it naturally anyways

4130
02:26:59,030 --> 02:26:57,040
is that maybe now we're affecting them

4131
02:26:59,750 --> 02:26:59,040
even earlier on to where that already

4132
02:27:01,030 --> 02:26:59,760
been

4133
02:27:02,150 --> 02:27:01,040
toned down a little bit so where they

4134
02:27:03,510 --> 02:27:02,160
won't even have the experiences that

4135
02:27:04,870 --> 02:27:03,520
they might remember because like mine

4136
02:27:07,510 --> 02:27:04,880
were up until i was

4137
02:27:10,150 --> 02:27:07,520
you know nine you know so

4138
02:27:11,990 --> 02:27:10,160
there was there was years worth of spans

4139
02:27:15,030 --> 02:27:12,000
of time where stuff was going on it

4140
02:27:16,150 --> 02:27:15,040
wasn't just a a one-time thing whereas

4141
02:27:18,309 --> 02:27:16,160
like if all of a sudden if i was my

4142
02:27:19,510 --> 02:27:18,319
tablet from the time i'm two years old

4143
02:27:21,429 --> 02:27:19,520
maybe i wouldn't even been paying

4144
02:27:23,830 --> 02:27:21,439
attention you know what i mean

4145
02:27:26,309 --> 02:27:23,840
you hit on something real quick willie

4146
02:27:27,349 --> 02:27:26,319
uh talking about memory in childhood

4147
02:27:30,469 --> 02:27:27,359
memory

4148
02:27:31,590 --> 02:27:30,479
and uh how powerful it was when i mean

4149
02:27:34,230 --> 02:27:31,600
we've all

4150
02:27:36,309 --> 02:27:34,240
skinned our knee you know running around

4151
02:27:38,710 --> 02:27:36,319
as a kid or or skateboarding or roller

4152
02:27:40,950 --> 02:27:38,720
skating and stuff and you remember how

4153
02:27:43,349 --> 02:27:40,960
terrifying that was and like oh

4154
02:27:45,750 --> 02:27:43,359
stop bleeding like oh my god what my leg

4155
02:27:46,630 --> 02:27:45,760
does that i have that stuff in my mind

4156
02:27:49,030 --> 02:27:46,640
but

4157
02:27:51,349 --> 02:27:49,040
imagine like not having that what are

4158
02:27:52,950 --> 02:27:51,359
the future of our kids are we gonna like

4159
02:27:54,790 --> 02:27:52,960
is is there are they gonna get their

4160
02:27:56,630 --> 02:27:54,800
first knee scrape when they're 12 when

4161
02:27:59,030 --> 02:27:56,640
they like you know

4162
02:28:00,070 --> 02:27:59,040
trip on the steps of

4163
02:28:00,950 --> 02:28:00,080
i don't know

4164
02:28:02,230 --> 02:28:00,960
going

4165
02:28:05,670 --> 02:28:02,240
to the

4166
02:28:07,670 --> 02:28:05,680
bathroom will be i don't know i'm just

4167
02:28:09,030 --> 02:28:07,680
trying to think of somewhere with stairs

4168
02:28:12,230 --> 02:28:09,040
but like

4169
02:28:14,309 --> 02:28:12,240
like talk about memories and and how uh

4170
02:28:15,510 --> 02:28:14,319
each memory is you have you use all of

4171
02:28:17,030 --> 02:28:15,520
your senses

4172
02:28:19,349 --> 02:28:17,040
but now everything's digital so you're

4173
02:28:21,349 --> 02:28:19,359
only using your eyes and your ears

4174
02:28:23,750 --> 02:28:21,359
and i mean you're not really using any

4175
02:28:25,510 --> 02:28:23,760
other thing everything else is constant

4176
02:28:28,309 --> 02:28:25,520
like you can control your temperature

4177
02:28:30,630 --> 02:28:28,319
inside and all that you can wear pants

4178
02:28:32,070 --> 02:28:30,640
or not i don't know but like yeah like

4179
02:28:33,270 --> 02:28:32,080
storing memories i don't know how that's

4180
02:28:35,429 --> 02:28:33,280
going to change

4181
02:28:37,030 --> 02:28:35,439
really quick uh

4182
02:28:41,510 --> 02:28:37,040
care am i saying your name wrong here

4183
02:28:44,469 --> 02:28:43,510
so uh from obviously sorry who you guys

4184
02:28:45,429 --> 02:28:44,479
got a wrench over there thank you for

4185
02:28:47,030 --> 02:28:45,439
all the hard work you do every night

4186
02:28:49,110 --> 02:28:47,040
over there uh but she was saying weird

4187
02:28:50,469 --> 02:28:49,120
stuff under my bed and in my closet a

4188
02:28:51,830 --> 02:28:50,479
portal so like when you were a kid this

4189
02:28:52,950 --> 02:28:51,840
stuff was happening are you saying like

4190
02:28:54,469 --> 02:28:52,960
currently

4191
02:28:55,670 --> 02:28:54,479
and to the point that we were bringing

4192
02:28:57,510 --> 02:28:55,680
up just now

4193
02:28:58,630 --> 02:28:57,520
ben uh tammy brings up a good counter

4194
02:28:59,349 --> 02:28:58,640
point to kind of what we were talking

4195
02:29:03,750 --> 02:28:59,359
about

4196
02:29:05,590 --> 02:29:03,760
think kids and computers so young is a

4197
02:29:06,950 --> 02:29:05,600
bad thing but maybe their brains are

4198
02:29:08,710 --> 02:29:06,960
waking up

4199
02:29:10,870 --> 02:29:08,720
uh to weigh more than the ten percent we

4200
02:29:12,550 --> 02:29:10,880
use and we should embrace that for what

4201
02:29:15,030 --> 02:29:12,560
for these new children

4202
02:29:16,630 --> 02:29:15,040
and i'm not saying i'm wrong either

4203
02:29:18,070 --> 02:29:16,640
i think that's actually what

4204
02:29:19,349 --> 02:29:18,080
i was going to get on there sorry i mean

4205
02:29:20,469 --> 02:29:19,359
i cut you off there

4206
02:29:22,070 --> 02:29:20,479
um

4207
02:29:23,830 --> 02:29:22,080
i'd been initially thinking you know

4208
02:29:25,910 --> 02:29:23,840
this was made like a you know terrible

4209
02:29:27,750 --> 02:29:25,920
thing like oh elon musk who's gonna put

4210
02:29:30,309 --> 02:29:27,760
computer chips in our brain and you know

4211
02:29:32,870 --> 02:29:30,319
turn us onto you know terminator

4212
02:29:34,710 --> 02:29:32,880
judgement day type [\h__\h] but uh i started

4213
02:29:36,630 --> 02:29:34,720
thinking you know like what it instead

4214
02:29:38,070 --> 02:29:36,640
you know like it's really waking us up

4215
02:29:39,910 --> 02:29:38,080
to you know this

4216
02:29:41,349 --> 02:29:39,920
maybe cause me knowledge that's about to

4217
02:29:42,630 --> 02:29:41,359
come you know whenever people find out

4218
02:29:45,510 --> 02:29:42,640
that they're not alone or you know just

4219
02:29:47,429 --> 02:29:45,520
like a you know whenever just we go like

4220
02:29:49,750 --> 02:29:47,439
she said accessing a higher percentage

4221
02:29:51,670 --> 02:29:49,760
of our brain you know what if like

4222
02:29:53,190 --> 02:29:51,680
kids adjusting to the internet at such a

4223
02:29:55,429 --> 02:29:53,200
young age where their brains are already

4224
02:29:56,550 --> 02:29:55,439
like sponges just kind of getting them a

4225
02:30:00,710 --> 02:29:56,560
little

4226
02:30:02,230 --> 02:30:00,720
i'm getting something out here sorry a

4227
02:30:03,670 --> 02:30:02,240
little ready you know before you know

4228
02:30:05,349 --> 02:30:03,680
they actually get that stage you know be

4229
02:30:06,630 --> 02:30:05,359
able to accept that kind of knowledge

4230
02:30:07,510 --> 02:30:06,640
and that's that might be coming in the

4231
02:30:09,510 --> 02:30:07,520
future

4232
02:30:10,630 --> 02:30:09,520
because yeah yeah i really feel like

4233
02:30:12,630 --> 02:30:10,640
it's only gonna be a matter of time

4234
02:30:14,150 --> 02:30:12,640
people don't know this stuff is this

4235
02:30:17,590 --> 02:30:14,160
legit you know

4236
02:30:18,950 --> 02:30:17,600
yeah stuff those uh navy parts maybe

4237
02:30:19,990 --> 02:30:18,960
playing fires

4238
02:30:21,910 --> 02:30:20,000
or uh

4239
02:30:23,670 --> 02:30:21,920
i'm talking about seeing a tic tac in

4240
02:30:25,429 --> 02:30:23,680
order it's man-made or not you know it's

4241
02:30:27,030 --> 02:30:25,439
real it's

4242
02:30:28,550 --> 02:30:27,040
yeah i'm sorry i didn't really get

4243
02:30:29,830 --> 02:30:28,560
sometime there it's it's definitely

4244
02:30:30,950 --> 02:30:29,840
something

4245
02:30:32,550 --> 02:30:30,960
i don't think there's anything that's

4246
02:30:35,030 --> 02:30:32,560
too far because like you what i love

4247
02:30:36,630 --> 02:30:35,040
about these conversations and why i'm so

4248
02:30:37,830 --> 02:30:36,640
excited for like doing this and then

4249
02:30:39,190 --> 02:30:37,840
obviously like this after our show we're

4250
02:30:40,150 --> 02:30:39,200
gonna do with sor

4251
02:30:41,349 --> 02:30:40,160
um

4252
02:30:42,790 --> 02:30:41,359
is that

4253
02:30:44,710 --> 02:30:42,800
people sharing these experiences and

4254
02:30:46,150 --> 02:30:44,720
experiences of any sort almost everybody

4255
02:30:47,270 --> 02:30:46,160
joan ben you guys like when joe put that

4256
02:30:48,630 --> 02:30:47,280
post out on facebook and he's like

4257
02:30:50,469 --> 02:30:48,640
listen everybody hit me up they're like

4258
02:30:52,150 --> 02:30:50,479
we've all had some sort of weird

4259
02:30:54,469 --> 02:30:52,160
experience right

4260
02:30:57,110 --> 02:30:54,479
and then when you start talking and

4261
02:30:57,990 --> 02:30:57,120
correlating these other it almost

4262
02:31:02,710 --> 02:30:58,000
triggers

4263
02:31:03,750 --> 02:31:02,720
that like they just make sense so i love

4264
02:31:05,110 --> 02:31:03,760
hearing other people i don't think

4265
02:31:06,309 --> 02:31:05,120
there's any

4266
02:31:08,070 --> 02:31:06,319
guys

4267
02:31:09,990 --> 02:31:08,080
bim jim if you're still in here i love

4268
02:31:11,990 --> 02:31:10,000
you brother but you might be the most

4269
02:31:13,349 --> 02:31:12,000
out there thing i've ever heard you you

4270
02:31:16,230 --> 02:31:13,359
came on the show and you said you can

4271
02:31:17,510 --> 02:31:16,240
turn yourself invisible

4272
02:31:23,590 --> 02:31:17,520
that

4273
02:31:25,510 --> 02:31:23,600
saying so i mean for me i love when you

4274
02:31:28,550 --> 02:31:25,520
guys share stuff i don't i don't really

4275
02:31:30,950 --> 02:31:28,560
cast any judgment on it it is what it is

4276
02:31:32,790 --> 02:31:30,960
you know it doesn't mean i have to 100

4277
02:31:34,790 --> 02:31:32,800
believe everything you've said but

4278
02:31:36,389 --> 02:31:34,800
if i'm not there how can i say it that's

4279
02:31:37,590 --> 02:31:36,399
not true i guess you know what i mean

4280
02:31:39,030 --> 02:31:37,600
i'm not there

4281
02:31:41,429 --> 02:31:39,040
uh really quick

4282
02:31:43,990 --> 02:31:41,439
i don't william does not think timothy

4283
02:31:45,429 --> 02:31:44,000
but i will drink to sauce on that

4284
02:31:46,710 --> 02:31:45,439
and um

4285
02:31:49,910 --> 02:31:46,720
so also

4286
02:31:52,469 --> 02:31:49,920
kira said yes as a kid and i still see

4287
02:31:55,190 --> 02:31:52,479
the dimensional beings as an adult

4288
02:31:57,750 --> 02:31:55,200
very interesting kyra kira forgive me i

4289
02:32:00,070 --> 02:31:57,760
i'm i'm still like i feel so like really

4290
02:32:02,230 --> 02:32:00,080
so new to sor and all that if you have

4291
02:32:04,309 --> 02:32:02,240
have you shared your experience

4292
02:32:05,510 --> 02:32:04,319
like on the on the show before have you

4293
02:32:08,309 --> 02:32:05,520
gone on to share because i would love to

4294
02:32:09,750 --> 02:32:08,319
check that out if you have and if not

4295
02:32:11,429 --> 02:32:09,760
i can't speak for joe and ben i guess

4296
02:32:13,110 --> 02:32:11,439
all the time but they might be up for

4297
02:32:15,190 --> 02:32:13,120
like totally having somebody on i'm just

4298
02:32:16,389 --> 02:32:15,200
saying i don't know if i should like

4299
02:32:18,309 --> 02:32:16,399
uh yeah

4300
02:32:19,990 --> 02:32:18,319
i didn't oh it's that's a great question

4301
02:32:21,990 --> 02:32:20,000
because kiara's i've known about her

4302
02:32:23,590 --> 02:32:22,000
since i've uh

4303
02:32:26,389 --> 02:32:23,600
been in the sor

4304
02:32:28,389 --> 02:32:26,399
uh chat and the fan for like the past

4305
02:32:31,270 --> 02:32:28,399
like year and a half so i mean i've

4306
02:32:33,270 --> 02:32:31,280
always seen her as a wrench on on sor so

4307
02:32:36,070 --> 02:32:33,280
i'd love to hear her story

4308
02:32:39,190 --> 02:32:37,590
pretty interesting

4309
02:32:40,870 --> 02:32:39,200
uh really quick guys i'm gonna be right

4310
02:32:43,349 --> 02:32:40,880
back so uh

4311
02:32:44,790 --> 02:32:43,359
you know what to do ben uh like you know

4312
02:32:46,550 --> 02:32:44,800
whatever i'll be i'll be right back in

4313
02:32:47,670 --> 02:32:46,560
just a second so give me guys guys give

4314
02:32:49,750 --> 02:32:47,680
me like two three minutes and i'll be

4315
02:32:52,630 --> 02:32:49,760
right back all right

4316
02:32:54,950 --> 02:32:52,640
i'll take my i'll take myself out

4317
02:32:57,670 --> 02:32:54,960
all right so

4318
02:32:59,990 --> 02:32:57,680
i totally know what i'm doing by myself

4319
02:33:01,830 --> 02:33:00,000
joe is uh

4320
02:33:03,750 --> 02:33:01,840
i uh

4321
02:33:05,510 --> 02:33:03,760
really could use uh

4322
02:33:07,590 --> 02:33:05,520
joe what i mean sonny what kind of jokes

4323
02:33:09,030 --> 02:33:07,600
do you got

4324
02:33:10,790 --> 02:33:09,040
i want to know uh

4325
02:33:12,790 --> 02:33:10,800
i want to know who who came up with the

4326
02:33:15,750 --> 02:33:12,800
picture are you mowing the lawn in that

4327
02:33:19,270 --> 02:33:15,760
costume news that was funny i saw that

4328
02:33:20,630 --> 02:33:19,280
oh yeah the uh the mandalorian

4329
02:33:22,230 --> 02:33:20,640
my wife uh

4330
02:33:24,710 --> 02:33:22,240
was like okay well

4331
02:33:26,469 --> 02:33:24,720
you look like way too cool so people are

4332
02:33:28,389 --> 02:33:26,479
gonna make fun of you you should you

4333
02:33:30,070 --> 02:33:28,399
know do something that makes you look

4334
02:33:31,349 --> 02:33:30,080
less cool so

4335
02:33:32,630 --> 02:33:31,359
we just took a bunch of photos of me

4336
02:33:34,630 --> 02:33:32,640
doing chores

4337
02:33:37,190 --> 02:33:34,640
it was like the mandalorian honeydew

4338
02:33:40,309 --> 02:33:38,469
did you notice in the one photo where

4339
02:33:44,950 --> 02:33:40,319
i'm doing the dishes or i put the actual

4340
02:33:48,790 --> 02:33:47,110
yeah that's funny at first i

4341
02:33:50,309 --> 02:33:48,800
i didn't even see the name i just seen

4342
02:33:52,790 --> 02:33:50,319
the pictures at first and i was thinking

4343
02:33:56,150 --> 02:33:52,800
who the hell is it and then i was like

4344
02:33:59,110 --> 02:33:57,429
yes

4345
02:34:01,110 --> 02:33:59,120
i did the

4346
02:34:03,830 --> 02:34:01,120
like the company i work for my day job

4347
02:34:05,670 --> 02:34:03,840
we did a halloween costume contest and i

4348
02:34:07,830 --> 02:34:05,680
still like i stayed up all night making

4349
02:34:09,190 --> 02:34:07,840
that damn costume and by the time we

4350
02:34:11,750 --> 02:34:09,200
were like because

4351
02:34:14,150 --> 02:34:11,760
we have people all over the world um

4352
02:34:17,270 --> 02:34:14,160
we're all it's a uh

4353
02:34:18,710 --> 02:34:17,280
a remote company so at 10 am is our

4354
02:34:20,950 --> 02:34:18,720
halloween costume

4355
02:34:23,270 --> 02:34:20,960
so i'm sitting there like dad but

4356
02:34:25,510 --> 02:34:23,280
luckily i have the helmet on

4357
02:34:28,710 --> 02:34:25,520
i'm barely seeing that tired but yeah

4358
02:34:30,150 --> 02:34:28,720
dude it was fun dude but everybody was

4359
02:34:32,150 --> 02:34:30,160
like okay so have you been like not

4360
02:34:35,510 --> 02:34:32,160
doing any work and just working on this

4361
02:34:35,520 --> 02:34:39,590
yeah cause it looked good

4362
02:34:43,190 --> 02:34:41,830
thanks man i gotta tell you guys i never

4363
02:34:44,710 --> 02:34:43,200
done i know you're gonna hate me for

4364
02:34:47,270 --> 02:34:44,720
this probably i was never too much in

4365
02:34:48,950 --> 02:34:47,280
the star wars uh watch that mandalorian

4366
02:34:50,070 --> 02:34:48,960
show like binge both seasons

4367
02:34:51,590 --> 02:34:50,080
back-to-back

4368
02:34:53,110 --> 02:34:51,600
that's [\h__\h] awesome i'm not gonna

4369
02:34:54,469 --> 02:34:53,120
like i mean hook but like i watched

4370
02:34:55,590 --> 02:34:54,479
mandalore and i went back and watched

4371
02:34:58,790 --> 02:34:55,600
prequels

4372
02:35:00,550 --> 02:34:58,800
now i'm getting into it man i love that

4373
02:35:02,150 --> 02:35:00,560
dude

4374
02:35:03,830 --> 02:35:02,160
i didn't like star wars either and i got

4375
02:35:06,790 --> 02:35:03,840
hooked on the mandalorian that's that's

4376
02:35:10,309 --> 02:35:06,800
how i started watching it

4377
02:35:12,230 --> 02:35:10,319
man edgy yeah gritty kind of yeah

4378
02:35:14,309 --> 02:35:12,240
i love that that that's your journey

4379
02:35:15,990 --> 02:35:14,319
right like with with star wars everybody

4380
02:35:18,389 --> 02:35:16,000
starts out

4381
02:35:19,990 --> 02:35:18,399
with the originals but you start man

4382
02:35:23,429 --> 02:35:20,000
lauren is also

4383
02:35:25,110 --> 02:35:23,439
it is pretty badass

4384
02:35:27,429 --> 02:35:25,120
let's be honest the mandalorian was

4385
02:35:29,270 --> 02:35:27,439
better than the last

4386
02:35:31,750 --> 02:35:29,280
almost all three movies the last two for

4387
02:35:33,750 --> 02:35:31,760
sure the last one for sure the first

4388
02:35:34,950 --> 02:35:33,760
of the last three i was kind of okay

4389
02:35:36,230 --> 02:35:34,960
with because like they were in certain

4390
02:35:39,190 --> 02:35:36,240
parts you've seen the millennium falcon

4391
02:35:40,870 --> 02:35:39,200
like oh my god is the wedding fall again

4392
02:35:43,590 --> 02:35:40,880
but the mandalorian just felt way more

4393
02:35:45,030 --> 02:35:43,600
like star wars to me it felt more

4394
02:35:47,670 --> 02:35:45,040
relatable because you didn't have to be

4395
02:35:51,670 --> 02:35:49,190
a little bit you know like you didn't

4396
02:35:53,429 --> 02:35:51,680
have to have the force uh to be the main

4397
02:35:55,750 --> 02:35:53,439
character i i thought that was more

4398
02:35:58,710 --> 02:35:55,760
relatable i mean baby yoda of course did

4399
02:36:00,230 --> 02:35:58,720
but like the main character kind of he

4400
02:36:02,870 --> 02:36:00,240
was just a badass i thought it was more

4401
02:36:04,230 --> 02:36:02,880
relatable i don't know

4402
02:36:06,389 --> 02:36:04,240
i like that the

4403
02:36:08,150 --> 02:36:06,399
badass edgy dude but at the same time

4404
02:36:10,550 --> 02:36:08,160
he's seen that he's got a heart taking

4405
02:36:13,670 --> 02:36:10,560
care of this you know the uh what grogan

4406
02:36:15,270 --> 02:36:13,680
is that was his name uh yeah it was epic

4407
02:36:16,150 --> 02:36:15,280
to me you know that's just real hard you

4408
02:36:17,510 --> 02:36:16,160
know it's

4409
02:36:19,030 --> 02:36:17,520
badass when he needs to be at the same

4410
02:36:22,790 --> 02:36:19,040
time taking care of something innocent i

4411
02:36:25,110 --> 02:36:22,800
don't know i just i related to that

4412
02:36:27,190 --> 02:36:25,120
it built like he had a kind of a real

4413
02:36:28,309 --> 02:36:27,200
hero's journey right i feel like

4414
02:36:30,790 --> 02:36:28,319
everything's so rushed with our

4415
02:36:33,030 --> 02:36:30,800
attention spans anymore that like what

4416
02:36:36,389 --> 02:36:33,040
we're doing is kind of considered

4417
02:36:39,429 --> 02:36:36,399
ancient it's lost form doing long forum

4418
02:36:41,590 --> 02:36:39,439
interviews like that's why dan warren is

4419
02:36:43,510 --> 02:36:41,600
doing so amazing is because that man can

4420
02:36:44,870 --> 02:36:43,520
pack so much information he used to do

4421
02:36:46,469 --> 02:36:44,880
it in 60 seconds now at least he gets

4422
02:36:48,070 --> 02:36:46,479
three minutes but like

4423
02:36:49,670 --> 02:36:48,080
he'll pack so much information in just a

4424
02:36:51,110 --> 02:36:49,680
couple minutes and then bam they're on

4425
02:36:53,110 --> 02:36:51,120
the next thing i think that's why i kind

4426
02:36:54,550 --> 02:36:53,120
of hate twitter is because everything's

4427
02:36:56,710 --> 02:36:54,560
so short

4428
02:36:58,790 --> 02:36:56,720
and i get that people don't have the

4429
02:37:00,870 --> 02:36:58,800
time to always dedicate it to this but

4430
02:37:02,230 --> 02:37:00,880
man this time like you guys you have to

4431
02:37:03,270 --> 02:37:02,240
know either being in the chat or

4432
02:37:05,349 --> 02:37:03,280
especially if you've done this and

4433
02:37:07,429 --> 02:37:05,359
you've talked dude three hours has gone

4434
02:37:08,710 --> 02:37:07,439
like that like it's so

4435
02:37:11,190 --> 02:37:08,720
weird

4436
02:37:12,870 --> 02:37:11,200
yeah how i feel like on twitter and

4437
02:37:16,670 --> 02:37:12,880
these in tiktok you have to be able to

4438
02:37:23,830 --> 02:37:19,510
efficiently i'm not good at that dan

4439
02:37:25,590 --> 02:37:23,840
warren is a a master at that but like

4440
02:37:28,630 --> 02:37:25,600
obviously we we like to sit around and

4441
02:37:31,030 --> 02:37:28,640
chat and get details out there but uh

4442
02:37:33,910 --> 02:37:31,040
i mean there's this uh quote uh my

4443
02:37:35,830 --> 02:37:33,920
favorite musician john mayer uh he made

4444
02:37:38,550 --> 02:37:35,840
this quote like dude i

4445
02:37:41,510 --> 02:37:38,560
he got so into like twitter like that he

4446
02:37:44,389 --> 02:37:41,520
just began to think and act

4447
02:37:46,230 --> 02:37:44,399
within this constraint uh a cons

4448
02:37:49,110 --> 02:37:46,240
whatever that word is but like a very

4449
02:37:50,950 --> 02:37:49,120
construct a very short like

4450
02:37:52,469 --> 02:37:50,960
way of thinking and communicating and it

4451
02:37:53,990 --> 02:37:52,479
kind of changes the way you think if you

4452
02:37:55,830 --> 02:37:54,000
only have 40 characters it used to be

4453
02:37:57,429 --> 02:37:55,840
wasn't it 40 like it used to be right

4454
02:37:59,349 --> 02:37:57,439
like it used to be 40 characters a

4455
02:38:01,030 --> 02:37:59,359
little more now it might be 140

4456
02:38:02,150 --> 02:38:01,040
characters now or something like that

4457
02:38:04,070 --> 02:38:02,160
yeah i don't really use twitter that

4458
02:38:06,550 --> 02:38:04,080
much i think it's like 200 or something

4459
02:38:08,630 --> 02:38:06,560
like that okay but but even even that

4460
02:38:10,630 --> 02:38:08,640
much i tried to uh shout out tonight's

4461
02:38:12,710 --> 02:38:10,640
show with calvin parker i'm like

4462
02:38:13,750 --> 02:38:12,720
anyway so anyway what do you got

4463
02:38:25,510 --> 02:38:13,760
in

4464
02:38:27,270 --> 02:38:25,520
the comments that i'd missed i was gone

4465
02:38:28,950 --> 02:38:27,280
did you guys see phillips comment from

4466
02:38:31,349 --> 02:38:28,960
the one of tomorrow media podcast or the

4467
02:38:33,429 --> 02:38:31,359
what if tomorrow yes i did phil oh my

4468
02:38:34,469 --> 02:38:33,439
gosh we got to get phil what i tried i

4469
02:38:36,070 --> 02:38:34,479
said he said he couldn't get on because

4470
02:38:37,590 --> 02:38:36,080
his upload speed is so bad but he said

4471
02:38:40,870 --> 02:38:37,600
my daughter told me

4472
02:38:42,630 --> 02:38:40,880
tonight that she was from another earth

4473
02:38:43,990 --> 02:38:42,640
i listen and ask questions when my

4474
02:38:45,270 --> 02:38:44,000
little kids say things like that 100

4475
02:38:46,469 --> 02:38:45,280
percent feel

4476
02:38:47,510 --> 02:38:46,479
because

4477
02:38:50,230 --> 02:38:47,520
dude

4478
02:38:51,990 --> 02:38:50,240
but that isn't that crazy

4479
02:38:54,309 --> 02:38:52,000
kids will say the most like

4480
02:38:56,469 --> 02:38:54,319
about that sorry go for it yeah 100

4481
02:38:58,309 --> 02:38:56,479
brother go for it i got a deep somehow i

4482
02:39:01,349 --> 02:38:58,319
was just thinking about today

4483
02:39:03,190 --> 02:39:01,359
um so what is it uh einstein's law of

4484
02:39:05,270 --> 02:39:03,200
conservation of energy

4485
02:39:07,349 --> 02:39:05,280
uh states one energy can't be created or

4486
02:39:08,309 --> 02:39:07,359
destroyed only turn into another form of

4487
02:39:10,309 --> 02:39:08,319
energy

4488
02:39:11,830 --> 02:39:10,319
so you know you i'm sure you guys know

4489
02:39:13,349 --> 02:39:11,840
you know you take like a tree if you set

4490
02:39:14,870 --> 02:39:13,359
it on fire you're not destroying from

4491
02:39:17,270 --> 02:39:14,880
the universe you just

4492
02:39:18,469 --> 02:39:17,280
turn the heat it's you know you can rise

4493
02:39:20,630 --> 02:39:18,479
up in the air mix with the water

4494
02:39:22,150 --> 02:39:20,640
molecules and rain back down and grow

4495
02:39:23,990 --> 02:39:22,160
another tree and we're all breathing

4496
02:39:25,830 --> 02:39:24,000
into oxygen you know it's connecting us

4497
02:39:27,990 --> 02:39:25,840
as one element to another well i'm

4498
02:39:30,469 --> 02:39:28,000
thinking you know like if our

4499
02:39:32,710 --> 02:39:30,479
conscious is like of this frequency it's

4500
02:39:33,910 --> 02:39:32,720
invisible but you know you can you can

4501
02:39:35,910 --> 02:39:33,920
feel the effects of it you know it

4502
02:39:38,070 --> 02:39:35,920
produces these uh these chemicals in

4503
02:39:39,670 --> 02:39:38,080
your body you know it literally emotions

4504
02:39:41,830 --> 02:39:39,680
you know make you feel a certain way or

4505
02:39:43,990 --> 02:39:41,840
different way whenever you die if your

4506
02:39:45,830 --> 02:39:44,000
physical body goes through the cycle you

4507
02:39:47,670 --> 02:39:45,840
know like a tree does like that lion

4508
02:39:49,190 --> 02:39:47,680
king you know circles like type shape no

4509
02:39:51,510 --> 02:39:49,200
your conscious is this invisible

4510
02:39:53,590 --> 02:39:51,520
frequency it wouldn't have to go to

4511
02:39:55,349 --> 02:39:53,600
another place if energy can't be created

4512
02:39:57,270 --> 02:39:55,359
or destroyed you know or turn to another

4513
02:39:58,630 --> 02:39:57,280
form of energy that's that that's just

4514
02:40:01,030 --> 02:39:58,640
the thought that hit my head today when

4515
02:40:02,630 --> 02:40:01,040
they hit me really

4516
02:40:05,270 --> 02:40:02,640
it was real synchronistic that you said

4517
02:40:07,030 --> 02:40:05,280
that me about the reincarnation thing

4518
02:40:08,950 --> 02:40:07,040
well i uh

4519
02:40:12,469 --> 02:40:08,960
the imagery that you just put in my head

4520
02:40:14,950 --> 02:40:12,479
josh is that uh the idea of density

4521
02:40:18,230 --> 02:40:14,960
where you can you can have two similar

4522
02:40:20,230 --> 02:40:18,240
liquids like water and oil but

4523
02:40:21,830 --> 02:40:20,240
if you put both of those in one glass

4524
02:40:24,070 --> 02:40:21,840
they they're

4525
02:40:26,070 --> 02:40:24,080
they work themselves out one goes to the

4526
02:40:27,590 --> 02:40:26,080
top uh

4527
02:40:29,510 --> 02:40:27,600
i feel like that's

4528
02:40:31,830 --> 02:40:29,520
i mean that's that's been described for

4529
02:40:34,070 --> 02:40:31,840
for for the frequency upgrade i think

4530
02:40:36,309 --> 02:40:34,080
that a lot of people believe that we're

4531
02:40:38,070 --> 02:40:36,319
going through right now this this change

4532
02:40:41,349 --> 02:40:38,080
is this uh

4533
02:40:43,030 --> 02:40:41,359
effect from three to the third dimension

4534
02:40:45,990 --> 02:40:43,040
or the fourth dimension to like the

4535
02:40:47,750 --> 02:40:46,000
fifth sixth seventh or whatever um and i

4536
02:40:49,910 --> 02:40:47,760
mean you go down you can go down a

4537
02:40:52,550 --> 02:40:49,920
really dark or not dark maybe it's a

4538
02:40:55,110 --> 02:40:52,560
light rabbit hole uh about that

4539
02:40:57,190 --> 02:40:55,120
transition but uh yeah i love that i

4540
02:40:59,830 --> 02:40:57,200
love that idea like transitioning

4541
02:41:00,950 --> 02:40:59,840
between between densities of

4542
02:41:02,630 --> 02:41:00,960
frequencies

4543
02:41:04,710 --> 02:41:02,640
it's cool stuff dude

4544
02:41:05,670 --> 02:41:04,720
by the way kiera uh i noticed a while

4545
02:41:06,630 --> 02:41:05,680
back that you said you haven't done

4546
02:41:08,230 --> 02:41:06,640
anything yet but you're looking at

4547
02:41:09,349 --> 02:41:08,240
putting stuff together for sure i mean

4548
02:41:11,590 --> 02:41:09,359
whoever you're comfortable reaching out

4549
02:41:12,790 --> 02:41:11,600
to but um i'd say ben and joe are pretty

4550
02:41:14,870 --> 02:41:12,800
pretty awesome about hearing people's

4551
02:41:16,630 --> 02:41:14,880
stories out and just uh

4552
02:41:17,910 --> 02:41:16,640
you know taking it for what it is you

4553
02:41:19,030 --> 02:41:17,920
know which is which i think is an

4554
02:41:20,309 --> 02:41:19,040
amazing thing that you guys are doing

4555
02:41:22,790 --> 02:41:20,319
and it's it's

4556
02:41:24,870 --> 02:41:22,800
so awesome the the community you think

4557
02:41:27,030 --> 02:41:24,880
about it like you know for yourself josh

4558
02:41:28,309 --> 02:41:27,040
uh uh for sure sunny and chad and all of

4559
02:41:29,750 --> 02:41:28,319
us have talked about it and lewis and

4560
02:41:31,590 --> 02:41:29,760
all of us guys like none of us would

4561
02:41:33,349 --> 02:41:31,600
have ever met 509

4562
02:41:34,870 --> 02:41:33,359
if it hadn't been for the garage man you

4563
02:41:37,590 --> 02:41:34,880
think about it it's pretty crazy and

4564
02:41:39,269 --> 02:41:37,600
like we all talk every day now dude it's

4565
02:41:41,750 --> 02:41:39,279
for real like i always i talk to you

4566
02:41:44,950 --> 02:41:41,760
bulls every day

4567
02:41:47,110 --> 02:41:44,960
i thank you for that but man like

4568
02:41:48,389 --> 02:41:47,120
this is like a a self-fulfilling thing

4569
02:41:50,230 --> 02:41:48,399
it's like

4570
02:41:53,910 --> 02:41:50,240
me and joe were just two dudes talking

4571
02:41:56,710 --> 02:41:53,920
about a thing and then uh and then

4572
02:41:59,590 --> 02:41:56,720
then a lot of other people were like hey

4573
02:42:01,590 --> 02:41:59,600
i also want to talk about that thing

4574
02:42:04,150 --> 02:42:01,600
and we just all kind of started talking

4575
02:42:06,870 --> 02:42:04,160
about this stuff together and it just

4576
02:42:08,630 --> 02:42:06,880
happened naturally man

4577
02:42:10,389 --> 02:42:08,640
there's there's the only credit that's

4578
02:42:12,230 --> 02:42:10,399
due is just the momentum that we're

4579
02:42:13,750 --> 02:42:12,240
making right like we're all figuring

4580
02:42:16,389 --> 02:42:13,760
this stuff out together that's what's

4581
02:42:18,790 --> 02:42:16,399
fun i mean we just met josh what like

4582
02:42:21,510 --> 02:42:18,800
three three weeks ago and i've learned

4583
02:42:23,269 --> 02:42:21,520
already so much from you and like dude

4584
02:42:23,990 --> 02:42:23,279
i feel like every time you chime in i'm

4585
02:42:25,910 --> 02:42:24,000
like

4586
02:42:28,389 --> 02:42:25,920
you're you're a cattle uh you're a

4587
02:42:30,469 --> 02:42:28,399
catalyst for like new ideas dude i i

4588
02:42:31,670 --> 02:42:30,479
just love it

4589
02:42:34,150 --> 02:42:31,680
i'm pretty sure

4590
02:42:37,670 --> 02:42:34,160
oh yeah and sunny [\h__\h] dude i mean come

4591
02:42:40,309 --> 02:42:37,680
on man i uh i i feel like

4592
02:42:42,469 --> 02:42:40,319
when when you shared your your story

4593
02:42:44,469 --> 02:42:42,479
back i mean [\h__\h] when when did we start

4594
02:42:46,150 --> 02:42:44,479
talking uh a couple

4595
02:42:48,070 --> 02:42:46,160
like five years ago right really did you

4596
02:42:50,309 --> 02:42:48,080
not hear about this so ben did you hear

4597
02:42:53,590 --> 02:42:50,319
about this with sonny and i

4598
02:42:55,750 --> 02:42:53,600
what is that okay you tell he we were

4599
02:42:57,269 --> 02:42:55,760
talking tonight in the in the chop shop

4600
02:43:00,469 --> 02:42:57,279
and sonny tells me this and go ahead and

4601
02:43:02,389 --> 02:43:00,479
tell him son i was thoroughly convinced

4602
02:43:04,309 --> 02:43:02,399
that i started listening to you guys

4603
02:43:06,790 --> 02:43:04,319
like five years ago and i told you that

4604
02:43:10,870 --> 02:43:06,800
story three years ago

4605
02:43:16,630 --> 02:43:13,429
and i was like oh no that's impossible

4606
02:43:18,309 --> 02:43:16,640
i've lived in this house for years and

4607
02:43:19,910 --> 02:43:18,319
i was in the other house when i started

4608
02:43:22,150 --> 02:43:19,920
listening to you guys

4609
02:43:23,510 --> 02:43:22,160
it's where i seen the flying thing over

4610
02:43:24,950 --> 02:43:23,520
the house and

4611
02:43:27,990 --> 02:43:24,960
all the stuff

4612
02:43:29,110 --> 02:43:28,000
and i got a superman effect

4613
02:43:30,630 --> 02:43:29,120
yeah

4614
02:43:34,630 --> 02:43:30,640
big one that's when we started talking

4615
02:43:39,590 --> 02:43:36,710
i don't remember that being in this

4616
02:43:42,230 --> 02:43:39,600
house when i even did the interview and

4617
02:43:44,309 --> 02:43:42,240
i've lived here for at least three years

4618
02:43:46,950 --> 02:43:44,319
almost three years two and two years and

4619
02:43:48,870 --> 02:43:46,960
eight months or something

4620
02:43:50,870 --> 02:43:48,880
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

4621
02:43:53,830 --> 02:43:50,880
so you remember our first inter

4622
02:43:57,349 --> 02:43:53,840
interview in your old house

4623
02:43:58,710 --> 02:43:57,359
yeah and that was five years ago

4624
02:43:59,910 --> 02:43:58,720
uh

4625
02:44:01,429 --> 02:43:59,920
that's when that interview would have

4626
02:44:02,389 --> 02:44:01,439
been to me it was yeah it would have

4627
02:44:03,590 --> 02:44:02,399
been like

4628
02:44:04,870 --> 02:44:03,600
four

4629
02:44:09,190 --> 02:44:04,880
five years ago

4630
02:44:10,630 --> 02:44:09,200
yeah and when he said that i was like no

4631
02:44:13,190 --> 02:44:10,640
it's impossible and then i thought about

4632
02:44:15,910 --> 02:44:13,200
the dates and i was like man he's right

4633
02:44:17,510 --> 02:44:15,920
how does that seem so long ago in the

4634
02:44:18,550 --> 02:44:17,520
other house it couldn't have been it

4635
02:44:20,150 --> 02:44:18,560
would have had to have been when i was

4636
02:44:21,590 --> 02:44:20,160
in the other house

4637
02:44:23,910 --> 02:44:21,600
but

4638
02:44:25,910 --> 02:44:23,920
so i mean is that is that another proof

4639
02:44:28,870 --> 02:44:25,920
of mandela effect for you

4640
02:44:31,670 --> 02:44:30,230
what about this one the other one that

4641
02:44:33,670 --> 02:44:31,680
sunny and i had sunny have had a couple

4642
02:44:34,870 --> 02:44:33,680
but i agree with him on this one dude

4643
02:44:36,790 --> 02:44:34,880
who okay

4644
02:44:40,950 --> 02:44:36,800
who remembers this time all right if you

4645
02:44:43,190 --> 02:44:40,960
said i live uh like right now it's 11 45

4646
02:44:44,710 --> 02:44:43,200
eastern central standard time

4647
02:44:47,590 --> 02:44:44,720
does that sound normal to you guys or

4648
02:44:51,030 --> 02:44:47,600
does that sound weird

4649
02:44:54,309 --> 02:44:51,040
uh the standard time is is new for me

4650
02:44:55,990 --> 02:44:54,319
it used to just be central time

4651
02:44:58,790 --> 02:44:56,000
okay apparently there's never been an

4652
02:45:00,630 --> 02:44:58,800
eastern central time

4653
02:45:03,110 --> 02:45:00,640
and i can't speak to sonny's but

4654
02:45:05,110 --> 02:45:03,120
suddenly he's having the same problem

4655
02:45:07,269 --> 02:45:05,120
standard time

4656
02:45:08,230 --> 02:45:07,279
well like

4657
02:45:09,190 --> 02:45:08,240
it was

4658
02:45:12,870 --> 02:45:09,200
but

4659
02:45:15,269 --> 02:45:12,880
time is what i would say just like he's

4660
02:45:16,950 --> 02:45:15,279
saying eastern

4661
02:45:19,349 --> 02:45:16,960
i would say pacific

4662
02:45:21,510 --> 02:45:19,359
central standard time but maybe maybe

4663
02:45:22,870 --> 02:45:21,520
it's the additive of standard that's

4664
02:45:24,790 --> 02:45:22,880
like [\h__\h] up

4665
02:45:26,389 --> 02:45:24,800
because like wherever you live it's

4666
02:45:28,150 --> 02:45:26,399
standard for you

4667
02:45:30,230 --> 02:45:28,160
maybe because now it's just eastern time

4668
02:45:32,550 --> 02:45:30,240
zone that's it there's never been

4669
02:45:35,429 --> 02:45:32,560
there's no eastern central standard time

4670
02:45:38,870 --> 02:45:35,439
zone ours is pdt

4671
02:45:40,550 --> 02:45:38,880
that one's called e.t

4672
02:45:42,309 --> 02:45:40,560
and i'll tell you guys the effect that

4673
02:45:43,910 --> 02:45:42,319
really got me in the other day it's uh i

4674
02:45:45,429 --> 02:45:43,920
don't know the exact details if you can

4675
02:45:47,429 --> 02:45:45,439
pull it up it's the mirror mirror on the

4676
02:45:48,150 --> 02:45:47,439
wall there's a mandela effect around

4677
02:45:48,950 --> 02:45:48,160
that

4678
02:45:50,550 --> 02:45:48,960
um

4679
02:45:52,790 --> 02:45:50,560
i can't if you can google it real quick

4680
02:45:55,030 --> 02:45:52,800
it got me so bad i mean when i saw it i

4681
02:45:57,590 --> 02:45:55,040
was like no there's no possible way yeah

4682
02:45:58,870 --> 02:45:57,600
she says magic mirror

4683
02:46:00,870 --> 02:45:58,880
yeah

4684
02:46:02,389 --> 02:46:00,880
that's mirror mirror

4685
02:46:04,950 --> 02:46:02,399
i don't believe it

4686
02:46:07,110 --> 02:46:04,960
i can't believe it

4687
02:46:09,830 --> 02:46:07,120
the one that got me recently is the uh

4688
02:46:12,309 --> 02:46:09,840
the scary movie remember the uh the tr

4689
02:46:14,389 --> 02:46:12,319
it was the trailer that was like

4690
02:46:16,309 --> 02:46:14,399
sixth sense had just came out a couple

4691
02:46:18,469 --> 02:46:16,319
years prior then scary movie it was like

4692
02:46:20,790 --> 02:46:18,479
you know scary movie right

4693
02:46:25,990 --> 02:46:20,800
y'all know it's like the big parody of

4694
02:46:29,110 --> 02:46:27,030
uh

4695
02:46:30,870 --> 02:46:29,120
the wayne's brother saying um

4696
02:46:32,790 --> 02:46:30,880
i see white people

4697
02:46:34,550 --> 02:46:32,800
oh my god is that not in there don't you

4698
02:46:36,550 --> 02:46:34,560
take that away from but in the movie he

4699
02:46:38,550 --> 02:46:36,560
doesn't they took it out dude they took

4700
02:46:40,469 --> 02:46:38,560
it out of the movie it was just in the

4701
02:46:43,349 --> 02:46:40,479
trailer because they thought it was like

4702
02:46:45,670 --> 02:46:43,359
a little i don't know they whoever

4703
02:46:48,070 --> 02:46:45,680
but i'd love to hear anybody else weigh

4704
02:46:50,230 --> 02:46:48,080
in on that if anybody remembers it

4705
02:46:52,550 --> 02:46:50,240
being in the actual movie because i

4706
02:46:54,950 --> 02:46:52,560
remember it i see white people because i

4707
02:46:57,030 --> 02:46:54,960
thought it was hilarious i got i got one

4708
02:46:59,269 --> 02:46:57,040
even worse man

4709
02:47:01,670 --> 02:46:59,279
for the goonies at the end before the

4710
02:47:03,030 --> 02:47:01,680
ship sails out you remember when the

4711
02:47:04,550 --> 02:47:03,040
rocks fall down

4712
02:47:06,469 --> 02:47:04,560
remember when they have to jump off the

4713
02:47:07,670 --> 02:47:06,479
boat and they're in the water yeah

4714
02:47:09,429 --> 02:47:07,680
before

4715
02:47:12,710 --> 02:47:09,439
sloth holds up the rock

4716
02:47:15,990 --> 02:47:14,870
the octopus the monster that was in

4717
02:47:18,790 --> 02:47:16,000
there

4718
02:47:20,389 --> 02:47:18,800
was grabbing on one of the girls legs

4719
02:47:22,389 --> 02:47:20,399
and they're screaming the whole part's

4720
02:47:24,870 --> 02:47:22,399
cut out of the movie to where

4721
02:47:26,710 --> 02:47:24,880
that that was gone the the whole part

4722
02:47:28,230 --> 02:47:26,720
with her and the two kids that are on

4723
02:47:30,230 --> 02:47:28,240
the rock the whole part of the movie was

4724
02:47:32,630 --> 02:47:30,240
gone and

4725
02:47:34,950 --> 02:47:32,640
i was for sure that [\h__\h] that that was

4726
02:47:36,309 --> 02:47:34,960
in there and they cut it out because

4727
02:47:38,469 --> 02:47:36,319
i've been watching that and whenever the

4728
02:47:39,510 --> 02:47:38,479
goonies comes on i'll watch it on tv on

4729
02:47:40,870 --> 02:47:39,520
cable

4730
02:47:43,269 --> 02:47:40,880
and that part wasn't in there then i

4731
02:47:45,269 --> 02:47:43,279
found the old vhs and it is on there so

4732
02:47:47,910 --> 02:47:45,279
i was right

4733
02:47:49,830 --> 02:47:47,920
it was it's on the vhs tape but it's not

4734
02:47:51,990 --> 02:47:49,840
on the movie when they show it now i

4735
02:47:54,309 --> 02:47:52,000
don't remember a sea creature of any

4736
02:47:55,910 --> 02:47:54,319
kind that's what everyone says there was

4737
02:47:57,830 --> 02:47:55,920
no octopus in there and i was like yeah

4738
02:47:59,349 --> 02:47:57,840
there is it was grabbing on them and

4739
02:48:01,990 --> 02:47:59,359
they're all screaming trying to get out

4740
02:48:05,429 --> 02:48:02,000
the whole part was cut out there was no

4741
02:48:07,670 --> 02:48:05,439
in the movie i see now

4742
02:48:10,150 --> 02:48:07,680
so i need to look more what is

4743
02:48:12,230 --> 02:48:10,160
the whole supposed reason for them or

4744
02:48:13,590 --> 02:48:12,240
the theory behind why the mandela effect

4745
02:48:23,690 --> 02:48:13,600
is is something to do with project

4746
02:48:23,700 --> 02:48:27,670
[Laughter]

4747
02:48:33,750 --> 02:48:30,230
i think i heard a little bit of it i can

4748
02:48:37,349 --> 02:48:35,349
what's the supposed theory about what a

4749
02:48:39,510 --> 02:48:37,359
mandela effect is the division

4750
02:48:41,670 --> 02:48:39,520
expressions expressed by the host of the

4751
02:48:45,190 --> 02:48:41,680
show do not reflect that yes nor the

4752
02:48:47,269 --> 02:48:45,200
show itself i'm just kidding

4753
02:48:53,269 --> 02:48:47,279
that should be before every one of your

4754
02:48:53,279 --> 02:48:58,309
but like yeah like the idea dude

4755
02:49:02,389 --> 02:48:59,830
the idea

4756
02:49:04,469 --> 02:49:02,399
is that like somebody farted really big

4757
02:49:07,510 --> 02:49:04,479
in this reset time

4758
02:49:12,710 --> 02:49:08,870
the kid

4759
02:49:15,429 --> 02:49:12,720
doc martin shows up he's like

4760
02:49:16,950 --> 02:49:15,439
do you guys hear that

4761
02:49:27,970 --> 02:49:16,960
everybody forgets

4762
02:49:31,670 --> 02:49:29,830
[Music]

4763
02:49:33,110 --> 02:49:31,680
um you know it's anybody that wants to

4764
02:49:34,469 --> 02:49:33,120
look at the mandela stuff i gotta i

4765
02:49:37,190 --> 02:49:34,479
gotta point you in and i'm gonna try and

4766
02:49:39,670 --> 02:49:37,200
get him on here ben uh brian stavely

4767
02:49:43,110 --> 02:49:39,680
from dose of reality on youtube

4768
02:49:46,150 --> 02:49:43,120
is the guy in my opinion who's

4769
02:49:47,910 --> 02:49:46,160
he keeps up with it and

4770
02:49:50,790 --> 02:49:47,920
honestly dave scott had him on you go

4771
02:49:52,389 --> 02:49:50,800
listen his episode with sr freaking blew

4772
02:49:54,309 --> 02:49:52,399
my mind i was stopping the episode every

4773
02:49:55,990 --> 02:49:54,319
like two seconds and googling like this

4774
02:49:56,870 --> 02:49:56,000
guy's wrong this guy's wrong this guy's

4775
02:49:59,750 --> 02:49:56,880
wrong

4776
02:50:01,670 --> 02:49:59,760
and uh damn it it just

4777
02:50:03,670 --> 02:50:01,680
he was right on everything anyway what's

4778
02:50:04,550 --> 02:50:03,680
weird about his stuff uh sonny you

4779
02:50:05,910 --> 02:50:04,560
mentioned how you were able to go back

4780
02:50:07,510 --> 02:50:05,920
in on your vhs it's on there but it was

4781
02:50:08,710 --> 02:50:07,520
removed from the tv show so that okay

4782
02:50:10,230 --> 02:50:08,720
makes sense but the stuff that this guy

4783
02:50:11,510 --> 02:50:10,240
hit on would be like even if you

4784
02:50:12,710 --> 02:50:11,520
wouldn't pop in your vhs right now it

4785
02:50:14,550 --> 02:50:12,720
would be different

4786
02:50:15,750 --> 02:50:14,560
like the one that hit me for instance

4787
02:50:17,269 --> 02:50:15,760
now this is an older show but did you

4788
02:50:19,110 --> 02:50:17,279
guys ever watch i love lucy growing up

4789
02:50:21,349 --> 02:50:19,120
anybody ever heard yes and i know the

4790
02:50:23,349 --> 02:50:21,359
answer to this one will right so sonny

4791
02:50:24,790 --> 02:50:23,359
and josh have you guys watched i love

4792
02:50:25,830 --> 02:50:24,800
lucy before by the way you are muted

4793
02:50:27,349 --> 02:50:25,840
sonny

4794
02:50:29,190 --> 02:50:27,359
a little bit yeah

4795
02:50:31,670 --> 02:50:29,200
okay do you guys remember the famous

4796
02:50:32,870 --> 02:50:31,680
line that ricky ricardo and those in the

4797
02:50:34,070 --> 02:50:32,880
chat as well so we're gonna have about

4798
02:50:36,389 --> 02:50:34,080
nine minutes before we get out of here

4799
02:50:38,550 --> 02:50:36,399
for uh for lynn wallington but do you

4800
02:50:39,990 --> 02:50:38,560
remember the famous line that uh ricky

4801
02:50:41,110 --> 02:50:40,000
ricardo would say to lucy when she would

4802
02:50:42,469 --> 02:50:41,120
mess up he would say it and kind of

4803
02:50:44,550 --> 02:50:42,479
point his finger at her do you remember

4804
02:50:46,469 --> 02:50:44,560
that line that he would say or no

4805
02:50:47,830 --> 02:50:46,479
uh something to the moon in that or

4806
02:50:52,630 --> 02:50:47,840
something to the moon i don't know

4807
02:50:54,630 --> 02:50:52,640
straight jackie gleason um

4808
02:50:58,150 --> 02:50:54,640
it was uh

4809
02:51:00,790 --> 02:50:58,160
he would just go lucy that's what it was

4810
02:51:02,469 --> 02:51:00,800
that's what i remember

4811
02:51:03,910 --> 02:51:02,479
okay i was giving everybody in the chat

4812
02:51:06,309 --> 02:51:03,920
just a second to see if anything pops up

4813
02:51:07,910 --> 02:51:06,319
so it's you're really close

4814
02:51:09,910 --> 02:51:07,920
with that sonny

4815
02:51:11,910 --> 02:51:09,920
so jake jacob willit says you've got

4816
02:51:13,670 --> 02:51:11,920
some explaining through

4817
02:51:15,269 --> 02:51:13,680
there

4818
02:51:17,590 --> 02:51:15,279
i have i have the answer to this you

4819
02:51:20,070 --> 02:51:17,600
guys i i recently

4820
02:51:22,309 --> 02:51:20,080
i've got the answer this is why we

4821
02:51:25,750 --> 02:51:22,319
confused it okay how many of you

4822
02:51:27,510 --> 02:51:25,760
i mean okay so uh sunny and josh y'all

4823
02:51:29,030 --> 02:51:27,520
did y'all ever watch all that on

4824
02:51:31,429 --> 02:51:29,040
nickelodeon

4825
02:51:32,790 --> 02:51:31,439
yeah i remember that yeah kim and kale

4826
02:51:35,429 --> 02:51:32,800
yeah

4827
02:51:37,830 --> 02:51:35,439
one of my favorite shows

4828
02:51:39,349 --> 02:51:37,840
will have you seen all that

4829
02:51:44,630 --> 02:51:39,359
i actually did not

4830
02:51:49,750 --> 02:51:47,269
there was a spoof with amanda bynes that

4831
02:51:51,750 --> 02:51:49,760
uh they they did this i love lucy spoof

4832
02:51:53,190 --> 02:51:51,760
if you look it up youtube

4833
02:51:55,030 --> 02:51:53,200
i love lucy

4834
02:51:56,710 --> 02:51:55,040
that is where that

4835
02:51:59,670 --> 02:51:56,720
line comes from lucy you got some

4836
02:52:03,510 --> 02:51:59,680
explanatory it was the spoof off of

4837
02:52:05,510 --> 02:52:03,520
that it it's not the actual show

4838
02:52:07,750 --> 02:52:05,520
see i feel like that's wrong because i

4839
02:52:09,269 --> 02:52:07,760
we might going to my grandparents that

4840
02:52:10,389 --> 02:52:09,279
was the only person who had the tv right

4841
02:52:12,309 --> 02:52:10,399
so when we would go to their house they

4842
02:52:14,630 --> 02:52:12,319
had like all their old dvds or their old

4843
02:52:16,550 --> 02:52:14,640
it wasn't dvds it was vhs okay or what

4844
02:52:18,950 --> 02:52:16,560
was on the reruns i remember channel 40

4845
02:52:20,550 --> 02:52:18,960
wlmb was like on all christian station

4846
02:52:22,070 --> 02:52:20,560
and stuff right and they would play i

4847
02:52:24,389 --> 02:52:22,080
love lucy reruns

4848
02:52:25,830 --> 02:52:24,399
i remember hearing rick ricardo come to

4849
02:52:28,230 --> 02:52:25,840
the door be like lucy you got some

4850
02:52:30,389 --> 02:52:28,240
explaining to do but dude that guy from

4851
02:52:32,950 --> 02:52:30,399
all that looks just like him but younger

4852
02:52:34,469 --> 02:52:32,960
tiny guy though don't you think it's

4853
02:52:35,910 --> 02:52:34,479
weird that that just so here's the this

4854
02:52:37,750 --> 02:52:35,920
is where like brian's way better doing

4855
02:52:39,750 --> 02:52:37,760
this brian stabley believes that when

4856
02:52:41,670 --> 02:52:39,760
they tell you oh you remembered it wrong

4857
02:52:43,429 --> 02:52:41,680
they'll put something out

4858
02:52:45,429 --> 02:52:43,439
to basically be like oh that's where you

4859
02:52:47,510 --> 02:52:45,439
remembered it from and then you take the

4860
02:52:49,429 --> 02:52:47,520
update as it were because that's easier

4861
02:52:51,030 --> 02:52:49,439
to say yes to that than to be like oh

4862
02:52:53,670 --> 02:52:51,040
holy crap why are we all

4863
02:52:56,389 --> 02:52:53,680
and that what are the chances

4864
02:52:59,830 --> 02:52:56,399
millions of people millions and millions

4865
02:53:03,990 --> 02:53:01,750
millions of people remember the same

4866
02:53:05,590 --> 02:53:04,000
thing

4867
02:53:07,030 --> 02:53:05,600
like okay in the bible are any of you

4868
02:53:08,870 --> 02:53:07,040
are you said you you guys were kind of

4869
02:53:10,870 --> 02:53:08,880
religious or not religious even in the

4870
02:53:12,309 --> 02:53:10,880
chat does anybody remember the line

4871
02:53:14,469 --> 02:53:12,319
about saying

4872
02:53:16,230 --> 02:53:14,479
uh in the bible it said that

4873
02:53:18,950 --> 02:53:16,240
it said that the

4874
02:53:20,230 --> 02:53:18,960
the lamb laid with this specific thing i

4875
02:53:22,830 --> 02:53:20,240
know that's really vague but in the

4876
02:53:25,429 --> 02:53:22,840
bible it said what's that

4877
02:53:27,030 --> 02:53:25,439
lion okay so you remember saying that

4878
02:53:28,150 --> 02:53:27,040
the line would be so long the the lamb

4879
02:53:29,590 --> 02:53:28,160
would lay with the lion it'd be so

4880
02:53:31,990 --> 02:53:29,600
peaceful or whatever

4881
02:53:33,190 --> 02:53:32,000
are we about to say mouse

4882
02:53:34,870 --> 02:53:33,200
no

4883
02:53:37,750 --> 02:53:34,880
so for me i 100

4884
02:53:38,710 --> 02:53:37,760
remember the the lion okay i remember

4885
02:53:39,830 --> 02:53:38,720
it's talking about i remember this

4886
02:53:42,070 --> 02:53:39,840
because they're going into like

4887
02:53:43,990 --> 02:53:42,080
preschool not preschool at sunday school

4888
02:53:45,190 --> 02:53:44,000
there was the painting of like you know

4889
02:53:46,550 --> 02:53:45,200
jesus with the

4890
02:53:48,230 --> 02:53:46,560
staff and like holding the sheep and

4891
02:53:49,590 --> 02:53:48,240
there was a lion's mane and he's petting

4892
02:53:51,670 --> 02:53:49,600
it he would talk about the lion laying

4893
02:53:53,349 --> 02:53:51,680
with the lamb it would be so peaceful

4894
02:53:55,750 --> 02:53:53,359
now like right here kira's getting this

4895
02:53:57,670 --> 02:53:55,760
one as well right lying pam he's

4896
02:53:59,590 --> 02:53:57,680
remembering lion

4897
02:54:01,349 --> 02:53:59,600
we're all separate i'm not with them and

4898
02:54:09,110 --> 02:54:01,359
they're remembering except for black

4899
02:54:12,790 --> 02:54:11,030
now it's just wolf no

4900
02:54:15,510 --> 02:54:12,800
no 100 that's for sure

4901
02:54:17,590 --> 02:54:15,520
it's the lion dude i i remember the lion

4902
02:54:20,870 --> 02:54:17,600
it gets so weird we had there was a

4903
02:54:22,710 --> 02:54:20,880
painting i i uh my uh early tiny

4904
02:54:25,110 --> 02:54:22,720
benjamin school years were at a catholic

4905
02:54:26,870 --> 02:54:25,120
school tiny benjamin school there was a

4906
02:54:28,710 --> 02:54:26,880
freaking painting dude with a line of

4907
02:54:30,150 --> 02:54:28,720
lamb dude that's what see that's what

4908
02:54:32,710 --> 02:54:30,160
sticks with me because it's the same

4909
02:54:34,710 --> 02:54:32,720
thing that there's some renditions of

4910
02:54:37,269 --> 02:54:34,720
that but that's not what's in the bible

4911
02:54:38,550 --> 02:54:37,279
the king james version at least

4912
02:54:40,309 --> 02:54:38,560
and they say well that's just because

4913
02:54:41,990 --> 02:54:40,319
it's been updated people forgot but like

4914
02:54:43,269 --> 02:54:42,000
when they started like tracing it back

4915
02:54:44,790 --> 02:54:43,279
to the attacks and stuff like no it's

4916
02:54:46,070 --> 02:54:44,800
never said that

4917
02:54:48,790 --> 02:54:46,080
i feel like that the bible has been

4918
02:54:50,630 --> 02:54:48,800
updated more times and windows

4919
02:54:53,990 --> 02:54:50,640
for sure

4920
02:54:55,269 --> 02:54:54,000
what we got about five minutes so i know

4921
02:54:57,349 --> 02:54:55,279
some of the people in here have got

4922
02:54:59,990 --> 02:54:57,359
wrenching duty uh

4923
02:55:01,910 --> 02:55:00,000
over at sor for lens tonight

4924
02:55:03,269 --> 02:55:01,920
only if bob's in there by the way for

4925
02:55:04,790 --> 02:55:03,279
those that want to check out what bob

4926
02:55:05,910 --> 02:55:04,800
berkins is all about the know about

4927
02:55:08,469 --> 02:55:05,920
perkins

4928
02:55:11,750 --> 02:55:08,479
go on over to uh paranormal chop shop

4929
02:55:14,710 --> 02:55:11,760
because he was on there last night

4930
02:55:17,190 --> 02:55:14,720
a personal friend of bob berkins was on

4931
02:55:18,469 --> 02:55:17,200
and he knew a whole lot about him i

4932
02:55:21,030 --> 02:55:18,479
stayed corrected

4933
02:55:23,349 --> 02:55:21,040
it was a personal friend i do believe

4934
02:55:25,429 --> 02:55:23,359
bob berkins rents a house from that guy

4935
02:55:27,830 --> 02:55:25,439
if i understood him right

4936
02:55:35,269 --> 02:55:27,840
he breeds clowns

4937
02:55:38,469 --> 02:55:36,790
you were laughing i pictured him

4938
02:55:45,990 --> 02:55:38,479
breeding the clown and i almost cried on

4939
02:55:49,990 --> 02:55:47,429
then really quick too i'll get you out

4940
02:55:54,230 --> 02:55:50,000
of here and uh

4941
02:55:55,750 --> 02:55:54,240
turn on chop chop guys on fridays p

4942
02:56:00,390 --> 02:55:55,760
it's it's

4943
02:56:08,309 --> 02:56:03,530
[Laughter]

4944
02:56:11,510 --> 02:56:10,150
it's warm salty

4945
02:56:15,510 --> 02:56:11,520
everybody does it

4946
02:56:20,710 --> 02:56:18,710
six o'clock guys i'll see you there

4947
02:56:22,710 --> 02:56:20,720
oh i love that zero cool it's like i

4948
02:56:25,190 --> 02:56:22,720
literally have that queued up right now

4949
02:56:26,630 --> 02:56:25,200
[Laughter]

4950
02:56:28,230 --> 02:56:26,640
oh man

4951
02:56:29,670 --> 02:56:28,240
for sure and josh if you have anywhere

4952
02:56:31,830 --> 02:56:29,680
that anybody can follow you please let

4953
02:56:34,469 --> 02:56:31,840
them know uh

4954
02:56:36,070 --> 02:56:34,479
right now not yet um not yet actually

4955
02:56:37,429 --> 02:56:36,080
i'm working on something right now you

4956
02:56:38,950 --> 02:56:37,439
guys are actually starting to motivate

4957
02:56:41,110 --> 02:56:38,960
me to want to get my own little channel

4958
02:56:42,630 --> 02:56:41,120
going or something maybe i can help

4959
02:56:43,830 --> 02:56:42,640
promote y'all and they'll promote me and

4960
02:56:45,750 --> 02:56:43,840
we stay in touch with each other you

4961
02:56:46,550 --> 02:56:45,760
know and get his troops out there

4962
02:56:47,750 --> 02:56:46,560
hey

4963
02:56:48,630 --> 02:56:47,760
100

4964
02:56:49,670 --> 02:56:48,640
david

4965
02:56:53,429 --> 02:56:49,680
for sure

4966
02:56:55,429 --> 02:56:53,439
brother

4967
02:56:57,110 --> 02:56:55,439
have a good we'll talk to you later okay

4968
02:57:00,950 --> 02:56:57,120
all right

4969
02:57:02,230 --> 02:57:00,960
here too as well and uh we'll see you in

4970
02:57:03,830 --> 02:57:02,240
the chop shop and we'll see you next

4971
02:57:05,830 --> 02:57:03,840
friday for sure oh do you have a guest

4972
02:57:07,750 --> 02:57:05,840
do you have anybody lined up

4973
02:57:09,670 --> 02:57:07,760
hold on ben thank you man i got your

4974
02:57:13,670 --> 02:57:09,680
message earlier oh thank you you got

4975
02:57:17,590 --> 02:57:16,070
i can't wait dude take it i want to say

4976
02:57:18,309 --> 02:57:17,600
thanks before you kick me out of here

4977
02:57:20,790 --> 02:57:18,319
guys

4978
02:57:22,469 --> 02:57:20,800
thank you man absolutely bro

4979
02:57:27,510 --> 02:57:22,479
great

4980
02:57:28,630 --> 02:57:27,520
guys bye

4981
02:57:30,070 --> 02:57:28,640
thank you man

4982
02:57:33,030 --> 02:57:30,080
i'm out hey

4983
02:57:34,790 --> 02:57:33,040
peace brother have a good one

4984
02:57:35,910 --> 02:57:34,800
all right guys

4985
02:57:37,990 --> 02:57:35,920
well obviously we took a little bit of a

4986
02:57:39,670 --> 02:57:38,000
change after mr parker left here tonight

4987
02:57:40,950 --> 02:57:39,680
but that was amazing i'm so glad that i

4988
02:57:42,150 --> 02:57:40,960
got to do that with him i'm so glad you

4989
02:57:43,590 --> 02:57:42,160
guys were able to be here and do that

4990
02:57:44,710 --> 02:57:43,600
with us as well

4991
02:57:47,750 --> 02:57:44,720
and then for those that have been at the

4992
02:57:50,309 --> 02:57:47,760
end big shout out to ben

4993
02:57:51,429 --> 02:57:50,319
josh and sunny thank you very much for

4994
02:57:52,630 --> 02:57:51,439
coming and hanging out and for all those

4995
02:57:55,590 --> 02:57:52,640
in the chat that kept it interesting

4996
02:57:57,510 --> 02:57:55,600
tonight we thank you very much and now

4997
02:58:00,309 --> 02:57:57,520
let's go over and show our support love

4998
02:58:02,230 --> 02:58:00,319
and support for sor

4999
02:58:04,790 --> 02:58:02,240
and like i said next week tune in for nk

5000
02:58:06,389 --> 02:58:04,800
canada and

5001
02:58:08,070 --> 02:58:06,399
if nothing else

5002
02:58:11,380 --> 02:58:08,080
stay curious

5003
02:58:38,150 --> 02:58:11,390
and keep it weird

5004
02:58:38,160 --> 02:58:46,060
so